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QB under pressure...an academic question
Posted on 10/5/09 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 10/5/09 at 3:37 pm
Okay, so when JJ's under pressure, it seems like he doesn't know it, e.g., in the first drive of the second half of the Georgia game when he got sacked three times. There are other times, too, but that seemed the most obvious example. I realize that a lot of this isn't his fault, but he seems somewhat oblivious to what's right behind him--like he doesn't have any peripheral vision. Is this something a QB can learn, or is it more innate? Can he be coached to "feel" when he's in trouble?
Please don't post any smart-a** remarks; I'm asking a legitimate question about a topic I'd like to understand.
Please don't post any smart-a** remarks; I'm asking a legitimate question about a topic I'd like to understand.
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 3:41 pm to reagancajun
without smart remarks you may not get any replies..
Posted on 10/5/09 at 3:43 pm to reagancajun
JJ is still a little green, but is shaping up great. Having said that, I believe the real problem is not so much a question of the quarterback's nerves, as it is the offensive line's ability to block and afford JJ the time he needs to find someone in the open, and make the pass.
Posted on 10/5/09 at 3:52 pm to TommyD
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as it is the offensive line's ability to block and afford
Yes, that's what really freaked me out about those three sacks in a row. I guess that's another thing I'm curious about--how much responsibility is the QB's versus the OL? Obviously the OL has the first obligation, but after that, how much responsibility does QB have for avoiding the sack?
Posted on 10/5/09 at 4:01 pm to reagancajun
The problem for JJ in that stretch and most of the 3rd quarter was that Crowton was an idiot and pulled a Sean Payton. He threw 3 straight times, and our OL played piss poor in that stretch. Basically, UGA teed off and JJ had no chance, because the OL play.
If you look at that, we put him in a tough spot. Let's see.
3 straight passes = 3 sacks and then punt.
Run once and get 2nd and 5. Instead of running again, we go for a long developing pass and they force an incomplete. Then pass again for 2 yards because of pressure.
It continued like that much of the second half until we started calling quick passes. The OL still sucked, but JJ had quick reads and made the passes on spot. This adjustment was NOT made.
I really think the biggest issue again was it looked like all of the OL was sick, and not just the 3 that went out. They looked worn down in the second half, and I think its partly adrenaline wore off from the first half which masked it.
If you look at that, we put him in a tough spot. Let's see.
3 straight passes = 3 sacks and then punt.
Run once and get 2nd and 5. Instead of running again, we go for a long developing pass and they force an incomplete. Then pass again for 2 yards because of pressure.
It continued like that much of the second half until we started calling quick passes. The OL still sucked, but JJ had quick reads and made the passes on spot. This adjustment was NOT made.
I really think the biggest issue again was it looked like all of the OL was sick, and not just the 3 that went out. They looked worn down in the second half, and I think its partly adrenaline wore off from the first half which masked it.
Posted on 10/5/09 at 4:02 pm to reagancajun
Wow...some actual insight for a change. I think it has to do with a lack of experience more than anything. As he gets more accustomed to playing he will start to feel the pocket a little better and make quicker decisions when needed. As it's been said many times on this board, Jefferson has only started 7 college games so although he still has plenty to work on, he's way ahead of the curve IMO.
That being said, the offensive line is going to have to step it up big time this week if we're going to have a shot.
That being said, the offensive line is going to have to step it up big time this week if we're going to have a shot.
Posted on 10/5/09 at 4:02 pm to reagancajun
and how much of an obligation does the Offensive Coordinator have to call a quick slant, screen pass, etc which will make the defense think twice about getting upfield so quickly on the play?
There are many angles from which to look at this. I think you are right to be concerned that it seems JJ isn't feeling the pressure as well as he should, but he does at some times and doesnt at others. May just be something he will get better at with time. <deleted the rest of what I was going to say out of fear of jinxing JJ>
There are many angles from which to look at this. I think you are right to be concerned that it seems JJ isn't feeling the pressure as well as he should, but he does at some times and doesnt at others. May just be something he will get better at with time. <deleted the rest of what I was going to say out of fear of jinxing JJ>
Posted on 10/5/09 at 4:05 pm to reagancajun
It isnt a matter of seeing guys behind him, it's a matter of having a clock in his head that subconsiously screams at him to get rid of the ball. This will come with experience.
Posted on 10/5/09 at 4:18 pm to biglego
everything these guys have said is correct.
its a transition from high school to college, college to the nfl, etc.
his internal clock on when to get rid of the ball will get much better but it only comes with experience when the opposing defense is flying at full speed.
we saw it yesterday in new orleans as sanchez held on to the ball too long and fumbled the ball in his own endzone.
its a transition from high school to college, college to the nfl, etc.
his internal clock on when to get rid of the ball will get much better but it only comes with experience when the opposing defense is flying at full speed.
we saw it yesterday in new orleans as sanchez held on to the ball too long and fumbled the ball in his own endzone.
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