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Posted on 12/22/16 at 7:12 pm to PiscesTiger
Other than Pete....
Posted on 12/22/16 at 7:51 pm to Paul Maul number 37
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Dwight Bo Lamar. Look him up.
A BAD arse... The dude was MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 12/23/16 at 2:46 am to beauxroux
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Not a negative, but seriously, how difficult is a dunk for a 7'1" guy, guarded by a 6'6" guy? Shaq was taller and heavier than every person that guarded him.
I've already explained to you that part of what made Shaq the better player is his size; yes, he got lots of easy baskets because he was so much bigger than everyone guarding him. However, the discussion is not, "Which LSU player was better if we ignore natural advantages given by size?" The question is, "Which LSU player was better?" You can't say that CJ was better because Shaq had an easier time due to his size; if Shaq was better because he was so big, he was still better.
Posted on 12/23/16 at 5:49 am to PiscesTiger
He was. You kids don't know
Posted on 12/23/16 at 6:14 am to PiscesTiger
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Proof that Chris Jackson was the greatest college player (other than Pete
Google "Greatest college basketball players of all time"
For what it is worth there is a great article under Grantland written by Chuck Klosterman and he plainly states the article is subjective.
He lands at 37th of all time here but the interesting thing is all the names bringing back memories.
Chris Jackson has never been mentioned as greatest college basketball player of all time and his NBA career was nothing spectacular. Enjoyed reading the arguments here but I believe the article places him about where he needs to be
Posted on 12/23/16 at 6:36 am to kylesch87
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I've already explained to you
You don't understand "rhetorical"!
Posted on 12/23/16 at 6:43 am to LCTFAN
My google works better.
LINK
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Great enough to be called one of the best freshman of all-time and great enough to be called one of the greatest NCAA scorers ever.
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It only took a couple of weeks into his freshman season for Jackson to let the world know about his scoring abilities as he scored 48 and 53 points in the first month of his college career. His season high of 55 (with nine 3 pointers) came soon after against Ole Miss and he would go on to average 30 points as a freshman and set the NCAA freshman scoring record with 966 points.
LINK
This post was edited on 12/23/16 at 6:45 am
Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:28 am to beauxroux
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You don't understand "rhetorical"!
Rhetorical, adjective.
- expressed in terms intended to persuade or impress.
- (of a question) asked in order to produce an effect or to make a statement rather than to elicit information.
Unfortunately, it did not persuade or impress. And since this is an open discussion, I'm allowed to respond and point out how wrong you are as much as I desire. You made an attempt to re-frame the debate into one about some weird "height-adjusted value," discounting one of Shaq's major strengths as a player. Whether you did this by making a statement, asking a question, or asking a rhetorical question, it is wrong and dumb and silly. So I responded.
Posted on 12/23/16 at 1:06 pm to PiscesTiger
I played against CJ in a pickup game when he was a sophomore.
Lightening fast.
To experience attempting to guard him was humbling.
He was a nice fellow as well.
Lightening fast.
To experience attempting to guard him was humbling.
He was a nice fellow as well.
This post was edited on 12/23/16 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 12/23/16 at 3:47 pm to kylesch87
A rhetorical question is a figure of speech in the form of a question that is asked to make a point rather than to elicit an answer.
You must be single. If not my condolences to your significant other.
You must be single. If not my condolences to your significant other.
This post was edited on 12/23/16 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 12/24/16 at 4:16 am to kylesch87
Your stats are BS stats. True shooting percentage -- 
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TS% True Shooting Percentage; the formula is PTS / (2 * TSA). TSA True Shooting Attempts; the formula is FGA + 0.44 * FTA.
This post was edited on 12/24/16 at 4:18 am
Posted on 12/24/16 at 7:07 am to PiscesTiger
Makes me sick seeing that starting lineup announced. What a waste of talent. I wonder what coach K or Pitino could have done with the same lineup.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 7:47 am to ell_13
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And Shaq was better
No. You simply can't compare the talents and skills of Chris Jackson to Shaq much less say Shaq was better. Shaq was a great big man. Jackson was a great basketball player.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 7:49 am to Erin Go Bragh
Shaq said Chris Jackson was the best college basketball player he ever saw
Posted on 12/24/16 at 8:21 am to Hooligan's Ghost
Jersey needs to be retired.
Period.
Too many damn rules regarding this.
Period.
Too many damn rules regarding this.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:07 am to Hooligan's Ghost
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:10 am to beauxroux
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A rhetorical question is a figure of speech in the form of a question that is asked to make a point rather than to elicit an answer.
Dude, I posted the definition of rhetorical. Why did you feel the need to post almost the exact same definition? Also, just because you WANTED your rhetorical question to end the conversation does not mean I am not ALLOWED to answer. That's not how discussions work.
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You must be single. If not my condolences to your significant other.
The only reason you would bother making weird personal attacks is because you know you can't actually argue on merit. I accept your concession.
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Your stats are BS stats. True shooting percentage
TS% is not a "BS" stat. It is a scaled measure of points per shot attempt. Free throw attempts are included, but discounted due to the fact that about half of all missed free throws are not "reboundable." If you have a better measure of shooting efficiency you should point it out. The entire point of using TS% is to combine FG% (where Shaq is miles ahead), FT% (where Shaq is obviously far behind), and 3% (where Jackson is good and Shaq is a non-factor).
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:14 am to Erin Go Bragh
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No. You simply can't compare the talents and skills of Chris Jackson to Shaq much less say Shaq was better.
Sure you can; I did. All you have to do is look at each player's statline, notice that Jackson scored more points but didn't provide a lot of value in any other area, and have some way to reconcile that against Shaq's somewhat-less-potent offense but drastically better defense and rebounding.
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Shaq was a great big man. Jackson was a great basketball player.
A big man is a type of basketball player. In fact, a big man is generally the most valuable type of basketball player. So if Shaq was a great big man, he must also have been a great basketball player.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:17 am to kylesch87
As pointed out above-- Shaq disagrees with you. But keep shouting at the wind.
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