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Posted on 12/11/11 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 12/11/11 at 4:18 pm
""""ESPN's Kirk Herbstreit fumed.
"You look at Michigan and Virginia Tech both bringing a lot of fans," he said. "But is that what it's come down to? Kellen Moore and Boise State, Baylor and Robert Griffin, Kansas State, and Bill Snyder is the coach of the year. But the BCS at-large selections are all about how teams come into cities and fill up hotel rooms."
Rare, and nice, for an ESPN analyst to slam the network product.
Sure, sweet Sugar would have been bubbly Boise State vs. Robert Griffin III.
But not sure the nation is clamoring to see ol' Bill Snyder work his sideline magic.
Dumping the USA Today poll would be the best BCS tweak. The understandably biased coaches are too busy to keep track of their own players, let alone other teams. Worse, the preseason poll ranking is an element of unfair reward/punishment. """"
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"You look at Michigan and Virginia Tech both bringing a lot of fans," he said. "But is that what it's come down to? Kellen Moore and Boise State, Baylor and Robert Griffin, Kansas State, and Bill Snyder is the coach of the year. But the BCS at-large selections are all about how teams come into cities and fill up hotel rooms."
Rare, and nice, for an ESPN analyst to slam the network product.
Sure, sweet Sugar would have been bubbly Boise State vs. Robert Griffin III.
But not sure the nation is clamoring to see ol' Bill Snyder work his sideline magic.
Dumping the USA Today poll would be the best BCS tweak. The understandably biased coaches are too busy to keep track of their own players, let alone other teams. Worse, the preseason poll ranking is an element of unfair reward/punishment. """"
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Posted on 12/11/11 at 4:23 pm to Meaux Bettah
I really don't understand the furor!
Bowls have always been about selling tickets, hotel rooms and economic impact. ALWAYS!
It's a bowl system, butts in the seats and making money. It's not about fairness and equity.
Bowls have always been about selling tickets, hotel rooms and economic impact. ALWAYS!
It's a bowl system, butts in the seats and making money. It's not about fairness and equity.
Posted on 12/11/11 at 4:28 pm to JohnnyU
Playoffs would blow up the control of the "unsexy team goes to the big bowl veto"
Posted on 12/11/11 at 4:40 pm to Meaux Bettah
Sorry, Boise state does not belong in a BCS bowl
Posted on 12/11/11 at 4:42 pm to Rockerbraves
Boise State doesn't even belong in the conversation. Do people just totally block out the fact that they play in the WAC? You know, the same conference that Louisiana Tech is in? I must be missing something with the Boise State obsession. 
Posted on 12/11/11 at 4:44 pm to Meaux Bettah
I don't think a lot of the members of the bowl committees know much about the match ups and teams. I've had a conversation about this subject once or twice with one of the members. 
Posted on 12/11/11 at 4:46 pm to Meaux Bettah
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Rare, and nice, for an ESPN analyst to slam the network product.
The BCS isn't an ESPN product and the ESPN analysts commonly rail on how shitty they think is.
This post was edited on 12/11/11 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 12/11/11 at 4:50 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Boise State doesn't even belong in the conversation. Do people just totally block out the fact that they play in the WAC? You know, the same conference that Louisiana Tech is in? I must be missing something with the Boise State obsession.
The played in the Mountain West this year.
Posted on 12/11/11 at 5:06 pm to JohnnyU
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I really don't understand the furor! Bowls have always been about selling tickets, hotel rooms and economic impact. ALWAYS!
This. And I don't understand why the BCS gets blamed when the bowls make the selections themselves. The BCS rankings just set parameters for who the bowls can select. If they decide to get rid of AQs in a couple of years like has been discussed, it will be tougher than ever for teams like Boise to crack the BCS. Bowl selection will go back to the days before the bowl alliance. This retroactive tweaking of the system everytime people start bitching just opens another Pandora's box of potential disasters to be criticized.
Posted on 12/11/11 at 5:18 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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I must be missing something with the Boise State obsession.
Beating Ga to start the season on tv lingered a LOOOONG time. As Ga recovered and made a run, Boise went with them in a lot of minds.
Posted on 12/11/11 at 5:24 pm to GWfool
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The played in the Mountain West this year.
Huge difference. Thanks for clarifying.
Posted on 12/11/11 at 5:36 pm to HeadChange
AIS = $$$$
Posted on 12/11/11 at 6:36 pm to Rockerbraves
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Sorry, Boise state does not belong in a BCS bowl
Because?
Posted on 12/11/11 at 6:36 pm to genuineLSUtiger
Boise St. is now in the Mountain West and next year will be in the Big East. Louisiana Tech won the WAC this year. Just sayin'.....
Posted on 12/11/11 at 6:46 pm to JohnnyU
quote:
I really don't understand the furor!
obvious stance coming from an lsu fan.
Posted on 12/11/11 at 7:48 pm to JohnnyU
quote:
I really don't understand the furor!
Bowls have always been about selling tickets, hotel rooms and economic impact. ALWAYS!
that's because you understand what a bowl is, how they even came into existance and who started them. people complaining about bowl matchups and relate them to "deserving teams" do not have a clue what they are talking about. and then they act like the BCS or the networks select them. ignorance. reminds me of the saying that if you shut up at least no one knows how stupid you are. the minute you open your mouth proof spews forth.
Posted on 12/11/11 at 7:51 pm to dreaux
long before the BCS, there were bowls.....which were always about tourism and filling hotel rooms...
as an aside, how many here remember the Sugar Bowl Basketball Tournament? not sure if there is still a Sugar Bowl Regatta out on Lake Ponchatrain....
as an aside, how many here remember the Sugar Bowl Basketball Tournament? not sure if there is still a Sugar Bowl Regatta out on Lake Ponchatrain....
Posted on 12/11/11 at 7:53 pm to vl100butch
Boise State beat UGA, though.
Posted on 12/11/11 at 8:00 pm to vl100butch
The bowls quit being about money and tourism 20 years ago after Notre Dame got a Sugar Bowl bid with a 6-4-1 record and SEC, Big 10, Big 8, SWC and PAC 10 schools started whining like little bitches. 
If we go back to the way it used to be, all Notre Dame would need is a 6-6 record to get a BCS bid.
If we go back to the way it used to be, all Notre Dame would need is a 6-6 record to get a BCS bid.This post was edited on 12/11/11 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 12/11/11 at 8:10 pm to JohnnyU
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It's not about fairness and equity.
I agree its not but what if money (bowl committees) know how coaches voted prior to bowl selections. Would that not influence selections? Think about it.
This post was edited on 12/11/11 at 8:14 pm
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