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Premeditated Ejection
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:30 am
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:30 am
Clemson star linebacker James Skalski came to hit and hurt LSU Monday night. I respect and like that in a player.
He made two signature hits of note. He legally damaged Joe’s ribs on one, and he was ejected after hitting Jefferson on the other.
What do I mean by signature? Skalski runs as fast as he can and launches himself crown of helmet first. This guarantees a hard hit, and increases the chance of injury. Injury to himself and others. Paralysis and death can occur to the player hitting with the top of the helmet. This is why he wears the old fashioned “horse collar”.
Now James is young and dumb. He thought risking ejection, paralysis, and death were worth it. Fortunately, he got the best of the three, ejection. Maybe he learned his lesson and won’t put himself at risk in the future. Maybe.
Unfortunately, the real culprits were not ejected.
We may excuse him for being young and dumb, and not fully appreciating that the risks are not worth the rewards. But his coaches not only allowed this young man to risk life threatening injuries, they encouraged it! If Joe had been knocked out, they might have had another championship. If James ended up as a paraplegic, the game would have ended the same for all but James.
James may or may not have learned a lesson, but the “responsible adult” Clemson coaches have not. Swinney and Venables should sit out the first half of Clemson’s next game. Dabo Swinney because he is the Head Coach and the buck stops there. And Brent Venables, Associate Head Coach, Defensive Coordinator, and Linebackers Coach because he failed to teach and insist that the young man use proper technique.
Maybe this will teach all three a lesson that they should have learned long ago.
He made two signature hits of note. He legally damaged Joe’s ribs on one, and he was ejected after hitting Jefferson on the other.
What do I mean by signature? Skalski runs as fast as he can and launches himself crown of helmet first. This guarantees a hard hit, and increases the chance of injury. Injury to himself and others. Paralysis and death can occur to the player hitting with the top of the helmet. This is why he wears the old fashioned “horse collar”.
Now James is young and dumb. He thought risking ejection, paralysis, and death were worth it. Fortunately, he got the best of the three, ejection. Maybe he learned his lesson and won’t put himself at risk in the future. Maybe.
Unfortunately, the real culprits were not ejected.
We may excuse him for being young and dumb, and not fully appreciating that the risks are not worth the rewards. But his coaches not only allowed this young man to risk life threatening injuries, they encouraged it! If Joe had been knocked out, they might have had another championship. If James ended up as a paraplegic, the game would have ended the same for all but James.
James may or may not have learned a lesson, but the “responsible adult” Clemson coaches have not. Swinney and Venables should sit out the first half of Clemson’s next game. Dabo Swinney because he is the Head Coach and the buck stops there. And Brent Venables, Associate Head Coach, Defensive Coordinator, and Linebackers Coach because he failed to teach and insist that the young man use proper technique.
Maybe this will teach all three a lesson that they should have learned long ago.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:35 am to Gaspergou202
This is the dumbest take on the ejection argument anyone has ever offered. Congrats.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 9:36 am
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:35 am to Gaspergou202
Every time there’s a targeting ejection coaches should sit out? Ok, how about no.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:36 am to Gaspergou202
The hit on Burrow was as clean as it gets. The one on Jefferson was targeting and was treated as such. This is a bad take.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:37 am to Gaspergou202
Thought he should have been tossed after the SPEAR on JB. He was looking to hurt someone.
ETA - Leading with the crown of your helmet does not require contact to the opposing players head to be disqualified.
ETA - Leading with the crown of your helmet does not require contact to the opposing players head to be disqualified.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 10:31 am
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:37 am to Gaspergou202
Jacoby's hit on the WR across the middle was more violent and dangerous to the guy on the receiving end than Skalski's hit on Jefferson
Jacoby didn't use his head; that's why it was allowed.
Jacoby didn't use his head; that's why it was allowed.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 9:38 am
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:37 am to Zanzibaw
Even the hit on Jefferson wasn’t malicious. It was by the book targeting, but a big part of that rule is intended to promote safety for the defender too.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:38 am to Gaspergou202
We are all dumber for having read this. Thanks a lot, you are somebody, keep your head up
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:39 am to Gaspergou202
Man you really missing a few between the ears
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:39 am to Gaspergou202
I get your sentiment but no coach will ever be ejected for a player's foul.
Ain't gonna happen in a million years.
Ain't gonna happen in a million years.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:39 am to Gaspergou202
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Gaspergou202
Wanna know how I know you never played football?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:40 am to mylsuhat
The Clemson receiver should be pissed his QB stretched him out like that over the middle. Left him fully exposed for a hard but clean hit.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:41 am to Gaspergou202
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Maybe this will teach all three a lesson that they should have learned long ago.
You bring up a great point.
Not very long ago, we were in Clemson’s shoes. It seemed we were having a player tossed every other game or two. This year I can remember only one player getting tossed, Carter in KO coverage.
I think our coaches did the right thing. I repeatedly saw our players avoiding using the helmet as a weapon. Guys pulling up and not launching their bodies. Overall I think our coaches did a great job and our guys were safer.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:43 am to Zanzibaw
BS, he led with the crown in the tackle of Burrow. Burrow happened to be fading to the right and back on the throw and changed the angle of the hit to the R shoulder par instead of crown of helmet. But most certainly his head was down and that crown was heading straight for Burrow
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:45 am to Gaspergou202
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Gaspergou202
you sound like one of the retards on the Clemson message board.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:47 am to Zanzibaw
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The hit on Burrow was as clean as it gets.
Clean? Yes, but only because he luckily hit with shoulder pads. He launched with the top of his head.
The repeated technique and the horse collar demonstrates premeditated and his coaches knew it.
Do I really want the ejected. No. Not because THEY don’t deserve it, but because this appears to only be a Clemson problem.
It would be best handled behind the scenes by the NCAA and other coaches.
Now defend Clemson allowing/encouraging this technique. That’s a bad technique.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:49 am to Gaspergou202
He has launched and ducked all year. I agree that once Joe got rolling that he made a conscious effort to launch and duck several times. He got caught and the refs did their job. It’s hard nosed football, but I have no problems with it as long as the rule is fairly enforced.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:54 am to Gaspergou202
A lot letters and words in this post, all for what?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:56 am to Gaspergou202
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Premeditated Ejection
Definitely read this as Premature Ejaculation
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