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Posted on 10/16/08 at 3:46 am to
Posted by Muppet
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Posted on 10/16/08 at 3:46 am to
FWIW, I think some of the washington players attended the WSU open tryouts and didn't make the team.

Jake Locker still probably has more talent than all of WSU's players combined.
Posted by Jrv2damac
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Posted on 10/16/08 at 3:47 am to
But man serious question, if USC gets upset by a last second field goal in Pullman this weekend, is is still not as embarrassing as LSU losing badly at Florida? That is what you have me thinking.
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 10/16/08 at 3:49 am to
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But man serious question, if USC gets upset by a last second field goal in Pullman this weekend, is is still not as embarrassing as LSU losing badly at Florida? That is what you have me thinking.
13-9 was purtee bad for them.
Posted by LASPORTSBABE
Shreveport, La.
Member since Aug 2005
1941 posts
Posted on 10/16/08 at 3:50 am to
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You're just as bad as the idiots in our fan base who insist on having this penis envy contest with Southern Cal. I don't know which fanbase is more insecure - ours or yours? All of this stems from one lousy split decision five years ago.

LSU and USC haven't played each other in two and a half decades. They likely won't play for three and then some. This "cold war" is a symptom of two fanbases who love to talk up their championships, but conveniently leave out the "dark ages" of recent memory - both schools having had their fair share of misery in the last two decades.

LSU's main dislike for USC should center around the 2006 season when it appeared that USC would finish its end of the season cakewalk with UCLA en route to playing Ohio State in Glendale for the BCS c'ship. LSU, meanwhile, would sit tight after a thrilling win over Arkansas (cue USC fan to remind LSU fan about putting up 70 on the Hogs) and wait to more than likely find out that the Tigers would make a landmark and rare appearance in the Rose Bowl to play the 11-1 Michigan Wolverines. All depended upon USC handling a very marginal Bruin squad and everyone would get what he wanted for Christmas. USC, however, choked on the big (errr, semi-big) stage in front of a national tv audience. Led by the vomit-inducing John David Booty - the third Booty to somehow screw it up for LSU - USC lost to a much weaker UCLA team, thus ending a quest of 16 titles in a row (or two in three years, if you're actually counting) by Pete Carroll. Instead of LSU getting a rare chance to play in the "Granddaddy of 'em all", the Tigers were squeezed out by the squeezed out. LSU would have to settle on going to kick Notre Dame's asses in the Sugar Bowl, while USC took a convenient bump back to the Rose Bowl to once again throttle Lloyd Carr. While LSU and Michigan would have been a terrific matchup and USC and Florida perhaps more terrific, the best settlement for everyone likely would have been for the Rose Bowl to tell Michigan to take a hike and rematch Notre Dame in New Orleans and allow the Tigers and Trojans to once and for all end their cold war and settle it in Pasadena. Once again, just like in New Orleans three years earlier, we'd get nothing doing.

So, USC fans...just when LSU fans seem to finally be getting out of the LSU vs. USC debate, you lure them back in. Yes, Florida stomped on us and nearly sucked the life out of us,
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but we lost to a damn good team. It might have been by 30, but is it worse than losing to 6 win, at best, team in Corvallis, Oregon...in a stadium that might hold 40 K A loss is a loss, but in the polls and for the BCS, it's how you lost - no matter if Florida is worlds better than Oregon State. In any case, LSU and USC are still in the "alive" category for a BCS title shot with one loss. As are Georgia, Florida, Mizzou, and Oklahoma. In fact, the SEC and Big XII have a combined 9 schools who are mathematically alive for a title shot. Compare that with the Pac 10's plethora of one...maybe add in the Big 10's stack of three. I can tell you this, though: If USC does get their shot at the title in January of '09, you'd better make it count. Next in line after Ohio State and Oklahoma, as far as "tired of watching this over and over" are the Trojans. True, USC handles up most of the time in the BCS games, but one more loss - in any year - to a very subpar opponent and the sportswriters and coaches will ensure that USC doesn't climb near the top to get their chance. Also, you need a title game worse than anyone, but maybe the Big 10. The Pac 10 is not a showcase conference from top to bottom...not even from top to top, really. Sitting on your asses and waiting for the SEC and Big XII and ACC to play their conference c'ship games, in hopes you'll move up due to a loss by one of them, is weak. Grab Boise and Fresno and make a 12 team conference and have that c'ship. It'll give you some credibility with the rest of us. It would have saved you in '03.


I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!!! TELL IT LIKE IT IS SIR!!!
THANK YOU!!!


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but we lost to a damn good team. It might have been by 30, but is it worse than losing to 6 win, at best, team in Corvallis, Oregon...in a stadium that might hold 40 K?


EXACTLY!!! USUCK WILL NEVER ADMIT THAT THEIR LOSS TO AN UNRANKED MEDIOCRE OREGON STATE IN OREGON IS WORSE THAN LOSING BY 30 TO A #11 TEAM IN THEIR STADIUM.


This post was edited on 10/16/08 at 3:53 am
Posted by Muppet
Member since Aug 2007
50512 posts
Posted on 10/16/08 at 3:50 am to
I think what we were trying to say was that although USC had a loss to an unranked team, they also proved their worth with wins over OSU and Oregon. LSU, on the other hand, really didn't play anyone worth a shite until Florida, where we got blown out. We just don't have a quality victory to show that we weren't just vastly overestimated.
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/16/08 at 3:52 am to
IF we lose in Pullman this week, then we have no business even being in the Sun Bowl.
Posted by Muppet
Member since Aug 2007
50512 posts
Posted on 10/16/08 at 3:54 am to
Did you notice that in the nationwide polls, only 9% of people thought Michigan could beat Penn State, while 22% thought WSU could beat USC?

Can anyone explain this to me?
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
6619 posts
Posted on 10/16/08 at 3:55 am to
Oregon St. will finish with better than 6 wins. They have had 10 and 9 win season the past 2 years, and a bcs bowl win this decade. You guys act like they are as bad as Ole Miss or something. Oregon St. the follwowing week shoudl have beaten Utah on their own home field. all they had to do was conver on any single 1 of 3 PAT try's but sadly they didn't. Oregon St. has a very good chnace of finishing ranked.
Posted by LASPORTSBABE
Shreveport, La.
Member since Aug 2005
1941 posts
Posted on 10/16/08 at 3:56 am to
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But man serious question, if USC gets upset by a last second field goal in Pullman this weekend, is is still not as embarrassing as LSU losing badly at Florida? That is what you have me thinking.


Don't get me wrong a loss is very embarassing and i am very emabrassed by our loss to Florida just like everyone else is, because most of us know that we are way better than that...However, they think(the USUCK)contigent on here, that losing by 30 to the #11th ranked team in the nation, on their own field, is worse than anything and very highly emabarrasing, even than if they lose to an unranked team...and i call bs on that bigtime!!! NOTHING is more embarassing than losing to an unranked team especially at their stadium, in most everyone's opinion except his!

This post was edited on 10/16/08 at 4:02 am
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
6619 posts
Posted on 10/16/08 at 3:56 am to
That there is alot of dumbass people who participate in stupid online polls?

Honestly we both know that that high of a percentage represent people who loathe USC and are just hoping beyond hope we lose.
Posted by Muppet
Member since Aug 2007
50512 posts
Posted on 10/16/08 at 3:58 am to
I just don't think people comprehend the magnitude of an FBS team holding open tryouts.
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65864 posts
Posted on 10/16/08 at 3:58 am to
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You guys act like they are as bad as Ole Miss or something.


Ole Miss isn't that bad this year.
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
6619 posts
Posted on 10/16/08 at 3:58 am to
Swamprat, tell us what exactly is the magical difference between the #25 and #26th ranked team? You seem overly obsessed with "unranked"
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
6619 posts
Posted on 10/16/08 at 4:00 am to
As a program Ole Miss cannot hold a candle to Oregon St. this decade. I don't think Ole Miss is a particularly bad team, but most seem to forget that Oregon St. is coming off of a 10 win season, and have won 4 consecutive bowl games.
Posted by Muppet
Member since Aug 2007
50512 posts
Posted on 10/16/08 at 4:01 am to
The bikini top jerseys last year didn't help their credibility at all.
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
6619 posts
Posted on 10/16/08 at 4:02 am to
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I just don't think people comprehend the magnitude of an FBS team holding open tryouts.


No doubt in my mind that if I was back in my playing days that I would get significant pt at WSU right now.
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
6619 posts
Posted on 10/16/08 at 4:03 am to
Yea, at least they got rid of em after just one season.
Posted by LASPORTSBABE
Shreveport, La.
Member since Aug 2005
1941 posts
Posted on 10/16/08 at 4:04 am to
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You seem overly obsessed with "unranked"


You seem to lose often to ''unranked'' teams! Alot more often than LSU does! So im quite sure you know the definition of what an unranked team is!!!

Posted by Muppet
Member since Aug 2007
50512 posts
Posted on 10/16/08 at 4:05 am to
"Swamprat," as you are apparently now designated, read this post please if you are still wondering why we are not getting the same love in the polls as USC.

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although USC had a loss to an unranked team, they also proved their worth with wins over OSU and Oregon. LSU, on the other hand, really didn't play anyone worth a shite until Florida, where we got blown out. We just don't have a quality victory to show that we weren't just vastly overestimated.
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
6619 posts
Posted on 10/16/08 at 4:07 am to
Funny thing is that in the unbiased computer polls Oregon St is ranked higher than LSU. At least in some of them.
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