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re: Point pulled from T-Bob thread: How much did 1/9/12 hurt future attendance?
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:04 am to LSU Groupee
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:04 am to LSU Groupee
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Yeah, it was so terrible for you. All LSU did was go 13-1, 9-0, play in the BCSCG, and end up ranked #2 in the nation. What a fricking disappointing season for you to live though as a fan.
What spoiled, little babies we have as fans.
this..
I learned long before the 1/9 game that the outcome of a teams season is in others hands...
I also learned to enjoy watching lsu play and have a better perspective of the team...
I go to every home game and stay till the end after tailgating all day and enjoy watching the games more than ever...
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:04 am to TopsInAmericaTim
The whole game was completely miss managed by Miles on many levels that said the senario that a team gets a chance at the national championship after being defeated and not winning their own division or conference is a problem. What this means with the new playoff system is that Sabama will always be considered for the playoffs because they when the "beauty contest" (players and coaches) regardless of head to head competion.
The wins and loses in the regular season are less important now than before. I think that game changed college football for the worst unless in the future they leave out teams that don't win their conference. Right now that is not the plan. Why should Auburn or LSU have to play Sabama again because the committee "thinks" they are as good when they already played each other????
The wins and loses in the regular season are less important now than before. I think that game changed college football for the worst unless in the future they leave out teams that don't win their conference. Right now that is not the plan. Why should Auburn or LSU have to play Sabama again because the committee "thinks" they are as good when they already played each other????
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:23 am to Captain Want
A part of me died that night sitting in the damn dome waiting on miles to try something different.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:29 am to Captain Want
The complete lack of gameplan adjustment and/or the failure to make a change at QB on 1/9 from Miles closed the book on Miles for me. I still watch the games and hope that LSU wins but I am not as invested as I was prior to 1/9. I was never a Miles fan but I had even said that if we won that game (or at least showed up) that I would admit I was wrong about Miles to all of my friends that are Miles supporters. The game ended with several of my friends that were pro-Miles joining me on the dark side. It is the head coach's job to get his team ready to play. It is a damn shame when you can't even get your team up to play in the NCG and I don't care if you are playing a team you have already beaten. You think Seattle is going to be down when they play the Saints on Saturday for a chance to play in the NFC title game? I doubt it.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:34 am to LSU Groupee
I don't post much, but read the rant everyday and have since it's conception. My post count probably makes me irrelevant. But you make my point.
LSU 2011 would have been considered the greatest college football team of all time had it won that final game. The offense didn't even show up for the game and JJ, well, he was what he was in that game. We looked very unprepared and uninspired. In my mind, all of this falls on the coaching. I was a staunch supporter of Les Miles up until that game, but he got outcoached and Tiger Nation got embarrassed.
Just after the SEC championship I bought a full- size helmet signed by the whole team/coaches after that game. Payed a lot of money for it. It has been sitting in the shipping box it came in in a closet since January 2012. Don't even want to look at it.
MUCH less emotionally invested in LSU football since then.
LSU 2011 would have been considered the greatest college football team of all time had it won that final game. The offense didn't even show up for the game and JJ, well, he was what he was in that game. We looked very unprepared and uninspired. In my mind, all of this falls on the coaching. I was a staunch supporter of Les Miles up until that game, but he got outcoached and Tiger Nation got embarrassed.
Just after the SEC championship I bought a full- size helmet signed by the whole team/coaches after that game. Payed a lot of money for it. It has been sitting in the shipping box it came in in a closet since January 2012. Don't even want to look at it.
MUCH less emotionally invested in LSU football since then.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:37 am to LSUnowhas2
U guy's a spoiled bunch of brats. I came up in the Charley Mac day's & we supported the Tigers when we weren't that good. Now if we lose a couple of games u people get your panties in a wad! 
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:38 am to BT
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It's simple.
It's expensive to go to games.
People aren't interested paying the money if team isn't in contention for a championship.
SEC and or NC.
Exactly. It isn't a zero sum proposition. You can't simultaneously raise prices for everything and then get mad when the person paying greater prices demands more bang for their buck. It is human nature to expect to see a return on your investment. I know quite a few LSU fans that are annual TAF contributors that viewed the amazing 2011 season as validation for all of the money they have contributed over the years, for supporting Miles through the terrible Crowton offenses and the terrible defenses after Pelini left, etc. But then when it ended the way it did on 1/9 they just felt misled. Then fast forward to the last two years where LSU is losing out on the bulk of the top in state recruits and LSU is still squeezing every drop of extra money out of the fans by raising prices.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:39 am to LSUnowhas2
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People aren't interested paying the money if team isn't in contention for a championship.
SEC and or NC.
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LSU is losing out on the bulk of the top in state recruits
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 8:41 am
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:44 am to cajunjj
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U guy's a spoiled bunch of brats. I came up in the Charley Mac day's & we supported the Tigers when we weren't that good. Now if we lose a couple of games u people get your panties in a wad!
on the next exciting episode of "Who's more Grizzled!"
Can you tell me what it was like to live through the Great Depression and World War 2 old timer?
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:46 am to Choctaw
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LSU is losing out on the bulk of the top in state recruits
Tell me where I a wrong? Over the last two years BAMA has cherry picked the top recruits from not just the whole state but from our own backyard (Fournette not included of course).
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:51 am to LSUnowhas2
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Tell me where I a wrong?
apparently you don't know what "the bulk of" means
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Over the last two years BAMA has cherry picked the top recruits from not just the whole state but from our own backyard (Fournette not included of course).
they've got a few....not "the bulk of". you're not going to keep all kids in state. its never going to happen. some people think there was some "fence" up.....there never was a fence...there never will be a fence. get over it
yet you ignore the fact that LSU has gotten the top players out of other states
its not really a good argument when we'll probably finish with a top 3 class
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 8:53 am
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:55 am to Choctaw
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apparently you don't know what "the bulk of" means
When you are talking about the five star recruits that were the "must have" and "can't miss" recruits for the recruiting classes I would say that LSU has lost out on the bulk of those in-state recruits over the last two years. This year for instance it was supposed to be #fiveforfive and it ended up being #twooutoffive.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:57 am to LSUnowhas2
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Tell me where I a wrong? Over the last two years BAMA has cherry picked the top recruits from not just the whole state but from our own backyard (Fournette not included of course).
Alabama got one Louisiana player this year who had an LSU offer (I guess you could say 1.5 since LSU wanted Hootie the first time he committed but didn't pursue him once he decommitted) and another one last year. We've certainly lost some in-state players that LSU wanted, but they definitely haven't all been going to Alabama.
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When you are talking about the five star recruits that were the "must have" and "can't miss" recruits for the recruiting classes I would say that LSU has lost out on the bulk of those in-state recruits over the last two years. This year for instance it was supposed to be #fiveforfive and it ended up being #twooutoffive.
The only one of the "five" that went to Alabama was a Texas kid.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 8:59 am
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:58 am to deSandman
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Alabama got one Louisiana player this year who had an LSU offer (I guess you could say 1.5 since LSU wanted Hootie the first time he committed but didn't pursue him once he decommitted) and another one last year. We've certainly lost some in-state players that LSU wanted, but they definitely haven't all been going to Alabama.
thank you
Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:00 am to Captain Want
Several factors have led to the current season of discontent among LSU fans, and 1/9/12 is the flashpoint for almost all of them.
1. Attending a game, whether home or away, requires a large commitment of time and money. If you are well entertained, it's worth it. Every game of the 11 season was so entertaining that the expectation of joy in New Orleans was higher than it had ever been. Then it all came crashing down, based on how poorly the team played. We are hesitant to emotionally trust the program again, since a lot of opportunities to regain that trust since then have been lost (the 12 Bama game, the Chicken Bowl pick & loss to Clemson, the GTHOM loss, & the pending rise in ticket prices come immediately to mind).
2. As fun as the actual games were, we knew all season the qb situation was a ticking time bomb. Nobody had confidence in both qbs, and when JJ failed so miserably in that game, we all turned on him. Despite the complete lack of evidence that JL would have been any better, that debate has split the more passionate fanbase that frequents message boards and sports radio.
3. The fact that the team we have always been little brother to beat us like that with our old coach has to be considered. We would not have the same hangover had we lost to OSU the same way (and if we wouldn't have beaten anybody the way we played that night.)
4. A large portion of the fanbase hasn't trusted Miles since he wore that ridiculous earpiece at the 2005 ASU-Katrina game. He just didn't look like a coach ready for the stage. So, even though he has taken us to great heights, we have walked that tightrope for 9 years now. That night was his best opportunity to unify the fanbase behind him. Instead, it was his biggest failure, and a large portion of the fanbase will never forgive him for it.
Lots of trends are hurting the college football experience, and LSU is not immune from that. In many ways, 1/9/12 made all of those trends worse.
GEAUX TIGERS
1. Attending a game, whether home or away, requires a large commitment of time and money. If you are well entertained, it's worth it. Every game of the 11 season was so entertaining that the expectation of joy in New Orleans was higher than it had ever been. Then it all came crashing down, based on how poorly the team played. We are hesitant to emotionally trust the program again, since a lot of opportunities to regain that trust since then have been lost (the 12 Bama game, the Chicken Bowl pick & loss to Clemson, the GTHOM loss, & the pending rise in ticket prices come immediately to mind).
2. As fun as the actual games were, we knew all season the qb situation was a ticking time bomb. Nobody had confidence in both qbs, and when JJ failed so miserably in that game, we all turned on him. Despite the complete lack of evidence that JL would have been any better, that debate has split the more passionate fanbase that frequents message boards and sports radio.
3. The fact that the team we have always been little brother to beat us like that with our old coach has to be considered. We would not have the same hangover had we lost to OSU the same way (and if we wouldn't have beaten anybody the way we played that night.)
4. A large portion of the fanbase hasn't trusted Miles since he wore that ridiculous earpiece at the 2005 ASU-Katrina game. He just didn't look like a coach ready for the stage. So, even though he has taken us to great heights, we have walked that tightrope for 9 years now. That night was his best opportunity to unify the fanbase behind him. Instead, it was his biggest failure, and a large portion of the fanbase will never forgive him for it.
Lots of trends are hurting the college football experience, and LSU is not immune from that. In many ways, 1/9/12 made all of those trends worse.
GEAUX TIGERS
Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:06 am to Captain Want
I think it did for me. Personally it made me take a step back and say "it's just a game."
After seeing that shite show Miles put on the field and not playing Lee after he basically got us there, I lost a lot of my fanaticism about LSU football. I still love it and go to as many games as possible, but that was pretty disheartening to watch in person.
After seeing that shite show Miles put on the field and not playing Lee after he basically got us there, I lost a lot of my fanaticism about LSU football. I still love it and go to as many games as possible, but that was pretty disheartening to watch in person.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:10 am to Thorny
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Thorny
Man you put my exact thoughts into words. This is 100% exactly how I feel.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:13 am to Choctaw
Hootie and Cameron Robinson would be two. Noil, while he didn't commit to BAMA did commit to another western division opponent in TX A&M. That is three that LSU has lost out on just this year to western division opponents not counting Gerald Willis who committed to eastern division opponent Florida.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:22 am to Captain Want
Yes attendance and the buzz around LSU football hasn't been the same since 1/9/12. But with the stadium expansion and LF coming in, I think the attendance will improve and the buzz will be back.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:26 am to LSUnowhas2
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Hootie and Cameron Robinson would be two. Noil, while he didn't commit to BAMA did commit to another western division opponent in TX A&M. That is three that LSU has lost out on just this year to western division opponents not counting Gerald Willis who committed to eastern division opponent Florida.
you said bama. so now its any top recruit to any school not named LSU?
get real
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