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re: Percentage chance that you give LSU to win in the Regular Season?

Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:13 pm to
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Any sequence of 10 events with the same two possible outcomes and an 80% chance of one of those outcomes would be most likely to result in that outcome occurring in 8 out of the 10 events.



Lol, it means its most likely for the event to happen 8 times, not that its bound by some weird natural law to happen. If you have 80 percent probability and you run it 1000000000000 times, yes you will get very close to 800000000000, but won't his the nail on the head. As the numbers increase, the percentage becomes a more accurate barometer.
Posted by Brett425
West Monroe, La.
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:15 pm to
I say LSU only loses one or two games this season
Posted by Paulu
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:54 pm to
Would seem to follow the Miles pattern for the last 3 seasons, including the 2 losses in the BCSNC year.
We seem to regress in the 2nd half of the regular season
Posted by Nuts4LSU
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:59 pm to
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Lol, it means its most likely for the event to happen 8 times, not that its bound by some weird natural law to happen. If you have 80 percent probability and you run it 1000000000000 times, yes you will get very close to 800000000000, but won't his the nail on the head. As the numbers increase, the percentage becomes a more accurate barometer.


Correct. 8-2 is the best prediction for 10 instances of an 80% chance, but each set of 10 will not always end up 8-2. Still, 8-2 is the prediction that is A) more likely to be exactly correct than any other single prediction, and B) likely to be, on average, closer to the correct result (when it's not exactly correct) than any other single prediction would be, on average.
Posted by Mayhawman
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 2:45 pm to
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Garbage. Home field advantage is statistically true. We also have much bigger recruiting "markets" than a La Tech, which is statistically important.

Thats speculation, not percent. If it's not 100%, it's 50 like a coin flip.
Unless there's a forfeit, there's a chance of either of 2 outcomes.
Ask Saban about UAB or ULM. It can happen and nothing says it can't happen this year, any game. You might speculate and feel better about one 50-50 shot over others, but it's still 50-50.
You might throw a speculated point spread on that 50% chance though.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 3:44 pm to
Its not like a coin flip. If you want to get really techinical with a coin flip, the heads side technically weighs a small amount for, thus its not a perfect 50/50, more like a 49.99999 to 50.00001. You are totally abusing statistics and probabilities. According to you, if Texas and Akron played, Texas would only win 50% of the time. Thats not even close to correct. You are turning this into a two outcome game, but that is just simplifying it far too much. Win/Loss do not take into account positional prowess, home field, weather, play style, and mental state.

*Totally forgot about tiebreakers.
This post was edited on 6/27/10 at 3:51 pm
Posted by purplepylon
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 3:49 pm to
North Carolina 60%
@ Vanderbilt 90%
Miss. State 80%
West Virginia 55%
Tennessee 75%
@ Florida 50%
McNeese St. 98%
@ Auburn 60%
Alabama 50%
UL-Monroe 99%
Ole Miss 65%
@ Arkansas 60%
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 4:12 pm to
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So, after saying all that LSU is going to win every game:

North Carolina 100%
@ Vanderbilt 100%
Miss. State 100%
West Virginia 100%
Tennessee 100%
@ Florida 100%
McNeese St. 100%
@ Auburn 100%
Alabama 100%
UL-Monroe 100%
Ole Miss 100%
@ Arkansas 100%


Can't say I agree with this assessment.
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If this happens

There can't be an "if" here. You said it's 100% certain to happen.
That makes it more certain than the sun shining tomorrow and Democrats raising taxes.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 4:22 pm to
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Correct. 8-2 is the best prediction for 10 instances of an 80% chance, but each set of 10 will not always end up 8-2.


at 30% though, it's not a slam dunk, 9-1 is 27%...





Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 7:32 pm to
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That's ridiculous. If you make 100 predictions it's possible to be wrong on 35 of them. I hope I'm misunderstanding you here, because that is just stupid.


You are misunderstanding. I'm not making 100 predictions or 10 or 12. I'm making one prediction, but doing so 12 times. As has been stated, you're using "poor statistical logic." What you attempted to do...

quote:

No, I'm considering each game to be a fraction of a win equal to the percentage chance we have of winning it, then adding them all up to see how many wins we will likely have after all 12 games.


has no basis in mathematics. The formula that you set up does nothing but established that we have a 678% chance of winning one game.

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You go right ahead predicting that every batter in baseball will go 0-for-the-season every year, since in every at bat for every one of them, they will be less than 50% likely to get a hit.


Not my argument.

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Likewise, you go ahead and predict a 12-0 season for any team that is 51% likely to win in each game they play.


My argument. If a team has a greater chance than not at winning ONE GAME, then you can write it down that they win that game.
Posted by Mayhawman
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 8:57 pm to
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You are totally abusing statistics and probabilities

I'm not using statistics and probabilities. That falls under speculation.
In a 9 horse race theres a 1 in 9 chance of a winner, and in each cfb match played, there's a 1 out of 2 chance either team will win or lose, or they wouldn't play the game. Ask Stanford or App State, or any one of the other hundreds of teams that had "no chance".
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 10:19 pm to
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Umm...you do realize that Dooley completely outcoached Miles last season at LA Tech, right??


what an idiotic statement.
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 6/27/10 at 10:46 pm to
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You do realize that La Tech was starting their backup QB against LSU last year don't you?





You do realize we started Jarrett Lee against Tech last year?

You do realize that none of the players care about playing La Tech? Right or wrong, there's a reason they played better vs Bama, Georgia, or Auburn.
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 10:47 pm to
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Umm...you do realize that Dooley completely outcoached Miles last season at LA Tech, right??


I guess Dooley outcoached Miles in 2007 too. What was the score of that game again? 56-0 or something like that.
Posted by Bayou_Bengal@Irving
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 11:42 pm to
North Carolina 70%
@ Vanderbilt 95%
Miss. State 90%
West Virginia 85%
Tennessee 75%
@ Florida 40%
McNeese St. 99%
@ Auburn 60%
Alabama 50%
UL-Monroe 99%
Ole Miss 80%
@ Arkansas 40%

I'm projecting 10-2.
Posted by Brett425
West Monroe, La.
Member since Jun 2010
1758 posts
Posted on 6/27/10 at 11:42 pm to
Dooley is in over his head
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29054 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 12:22 am to
quote:

chilge1

You sure have spewed a whole lot of stupid all over this thread.
quote:

My argument. If a team has a greater chance than not at winning ONE GAME, then you can write it down that they win that game.

If a team has a 51% chance of winning a game, then 51 out of 100 times you can write it down as a win, not every time.

Question: If LSU had a 50% chance of winning every game on their schedule, what would you predict their record to be?

Answer: If you say anything other than 6-6, you are beyond retarded.

Explanation: A 50% chance of victory can be counted as half a win for predictions/probabilities. Rather than add together twelve .5's, I will just say 12 X .5 = 6, as in 6 wins. If, instead, LSU had an 80% chance of winning each game, we would expect their record to be 12 X .8 = 9.6 wins. Now obviously you can't win 9.6 games, and it seems this is a problem for you to understand how this works. It should be apparent even to you that having an 80% shot of winning each game will result in a better record (usually) than having a 50% chance of winning each game. How much better should the record be? About 3.6 wins better.

The fact that we're talking about winning portions of a game doesn't make it any less correct as a prediction. Let's say you and I bet on how many games LSU will win this season, you say 11 and I say 9.6. LSU ends up with 10 wins. Who wins the bet? I do.
Posted by lsufan4117
(slidell) stuck in ms. (better)
Member since Jun 2010
477 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 12:36 am to
idiots!!! Really, when your a fan its 100% no matter what or who we play....the only 2 teams i say hard fought.bama, florida and or defensive ends are gonna eat brantley's arse alive...mallet and any other passing Qb!!!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297285 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 12:40 am to
North Carolina 50%
@ Vanderbilt 70%
Miss. State 60%
West Virginia 70%
Tennessee 50%
@ Florida 20%
McNeese St. 100%
@ Auburn 50%
Alabama 20%
UL-Monroe 90%
Ole Miss 40%
@ Arkansas 50%
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 6/28/10 at 2:06 am to
Being a fan is not blind following. I really like the Red Sox, but I also note that their ability to win will be severely restricted as long as Pedroia is out.
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