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Pat White on LSU & Nick Saban

Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:23 pm
Posted by mytigger
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:23 pm
An interesting read......

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But the quintessential Pat White story, the one that covers the whole file of quarterback questions and smart decisions came during his college recruitment. He initially chose Louisiana State. It was close to his home of Daphne, Ala. It was the team he followed as a kid. His mom was pushing it.

LSU recruited White as an, "athlete," and he knew what that meant. Quarterback wasn't promised. It probably wasn't even on the radar. But when West Virginia began recruiting White only as a quarterback and had a spread offense to custom-fit his skills, LSU changed its tune.

Its coach told White he could play quarterback.

"I didn't think they were being honest," White says.

Its coach also said the previous year's top quarterback recruit, JaMarcus Russell, might not have the brains to play quarterback. Like White, Russell was from the Mobile, Ala., area. He knew Russell.

"I thought, 'If they were going to say that about him to me, what were they going to say about me to a [recruit] a year from now?'" White says. "I just didn't trust what I was being told."

So White went to West Virginia, started four years, won four bowl games and set records as a passer and a runner. But here's the kicker to that story: The LSU coach was Nick Saban, the guy who took lying to a new level a few years later as Dolphins coach.

So give White points for figuring in a few weeks what it took everyone in South Florida a few years to understand. But then White's always been a quick read, as well as hard of hearing to detractors.

LINK (free info)
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:25 pm to
every coach does this, it's the nature of the game
Posted by TigerWoody
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:26 pm to
Post this on the SEC Rant and have fun with the Sabanite gumps.
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
15279 posts
Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:27 pm to
Probably a good call. May have to do some "creative" editing with the subject line

ETA - some cool daddy stole my thunder
This post was edited on 8/10/09 at 8:29 pm
Posted by Stevo
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:28 pm to
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every coach does this


no, they don't.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:28 pm to
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White is a gimmick QB


Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

every coach does this, it's the nature of the game


:fail:
Posted by ready4something
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:29 pm to
Damn. The ethics of big time college coaching
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Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:29 pm to
This is why i think Shepard can play QB
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

every coach does this, it's the nature of the game


Every coach tells recruits that his prized recruit the year before is too stupid to play the game? Awesome...sounds like a winning formula.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:31 pm to
Doc, you dont actually think White is going to be good in the NFL do you?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71231 posts
Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:39 pm to
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Every coach tells recruits that his prized recruit the year before is too stupid to play the game? Awesome...sounds like a winning formula.

ok, when russell shepard never starts a game at quarterback, what are you gonna say then? coaches say whatever they need to say to get guys to sign. that is a fact regardless of what you see through your purple and gold sunglasses, and i highly doubt saban said russell was stupid. he probably said something like he hadn't won the starting job yet because he hadn't yet fully grasped the offense
This post was edited on 8/10/09 at 8:41 pm
Posted by ForeLSU
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

ok, when russell shepard never starts a game at quarterback, what are you gonna say then?


RS has been very clear that all Miles promised him was a shot at QB...
Posted by LSU NO Tigah
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2005
5628 posts
Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:47 pm to
We all know there's some half truth's, etc. being told to recruits by coaches but White was on the money with not trusting Saban. What he was told was detrimental to Pat White's career, it was also putting down one of his own players who was already on campus. Saban is just a douchebag, everyone knows it but the gumps. Sad really!
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71231 posts
Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

RS has been very clear that all Miles promised him was a shot at QB...

no shite, and do you not think that pat white would have at least gotten a shot at quarterback? i do. you can't not give a guy with that kind of ability even a look. it's just funny how people search high and low for anything that can be construed as negative pertaining to saban. he hasn't been the coach here in 4 years, get the frick over him. the obsession some people have with nick saban looks so pathetic. nick saban is a dick. everyone knows it, drop it
This post was edited on 8/10/09 at 8:48 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

Doc, you dont actually think White is going to be good in the NFL do you?


he'll be perfect for that system they run in miami.

but he was far more than a gimmick QB in college.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:50 pm to
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no shite, and do you not think that pat white would have at least gotten a shot at quarterback?


with Russell and Flynn running a Jimbo offense, I can't state with 99.9% certainty that he wouldn't have gotten a shot.

quote:


it's just funny how people search high and low for anything that can be construed as negative pertaining to saban. he hasn't been the coach here in 4 years, get the frick over him.


I reserve the right to make fun of whomever is the current coach at Alabama in whatever way I can...thanks though for the advice.


Posted by specs1
Member since Dec 2005
10015 posts
Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:53 pm to
Ok, refresh my memory here:

Saban 1 MNC
White 0 MNC

Further White was useless against PITT to get to the MNC, which provided Les the chance to get his.

Nothing against White, but I'm happy we had Jamarcus!
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

Further White was useless against PITT to get to the MNC,


injured...
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71231 posts
Posted on 8/10/09 at 8:55 pm to
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I reserve the right to make fun of whomever is the current coach at Alabama in whatever way I can...thanks though for the advice.


yeah because there were shula posts every day here when he was the coach. pleeeaaassseee
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