I thought we had the talent to force their offense into playing how we wanted them to. Turns out I was wrong and their qb and big receivers were better

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Posted by misey94

Hernando, MS

Member since Jan 2007

23327 posts

Posted on 9/5/22 at 1:30 pm to marinebioman

Zone is by nature a reactionary scheme. It takes time for players to learn how to close spaces fast and play aggressive inside of the system. Except for the Arkansas transfers, our guys haven’t run that much zone, so there’s an adjustment period happening. It’s worse than I expected, but there was always going to be some learning curve here.

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Posted by easy money

Member since Feb 2005

14420 posts

Posted on 9/5/22 at 1:38 pm to marinebioman

The pressure on the qb ended up hurting us a lot more than helping us. Kid was throwing jump passes and passes across his body to wide open receivers.

Did we record an official sack? I mean we were back there it seemed on 70% of passing plays. I don’t remember the first guy ever wrapping up the qb.

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Posted by mtntiger

Asheville, NC

Member since Oct 2003

26637 posts

Posted on 9/5/22 at 1:47 pm to easy money

Tackling was definitely an issue. Guys still haven't learned to pursue so that you force the ball carriers toward your fellow defenders. Went for the inside hip every time, missed the tackle and off he went to the outside.

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Posted by I20goon

about 7mi down a dirt road

Member since Aug 2013

12896 posts

Posted on 9/5/22 at 2:05 pm to marinebioman

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I thought we had the talent to force their offense into playing how we wanted them to. Turns out I was wrong and their qb and big receivers were better

I think the opposite...

On many plays you can see where we either bring somebody down, crash the LoS, or blitz and they magically went to the other side.

It wasn't magic, or luck. Either we thought we knew their tendencies and we didn't or, more likely, they were making reads through our disguises and were audibling.

We tried to dictate by bringing more to the box on either the field or boundary side. They used it against us.

For example, we knew their QB liked to run right and was accurate on the run to that side. And they did that some. But most of their first downs on 3rd downs were to the boundary side with a pass on the hash while we're rolling over to the field side.

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Posted by Leopard7

Mars

Member since Jul 2018

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Posted on 9/5/22 at 2:30 pm to marinebioman

Both offense and defense played the first half and the first series of the second half defensively.

Ward drives me crazy. He was continually "waatching" in his "position" as FSU tossed an easy pass for a first down on third and long. That is discipline to a fault.

Likewise, Daniels appeared to have the ball stuck to his hand through the first half. Who is scaring the safeties and the quarterback? Is it Kelley or the coordinators?

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Posted by moneyg

Member since Jun 2006

56472 posts

Posted on 9/5/22 at 3:16 pm to marinebioman

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Our defense was reactionary
I thought we had the talent to force their offense into playing how we wanted them to. Turns out I was wrong and their qb and big receivers were better

What we learned...

Our CBs are bad. I think they are really bad.

Our safeties are average. I think they are semi-talented, but make poor decisions and miss tackles.

Our linebackers in coverage are very poor. They don't identify the routes in zone coverage...even when the coverage is specifically designed to prevent the route in front of them from succeeding.

Our Defensive front was disruptive...but not nearly disruptive enough to overcome everything else.

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