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re: Orgeron: It's going to look different, because it is different

Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:21 pm to
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Just out of curiosity, what do people need to outwardly do to show they aren't ok with losing to Alabama



How could it ever be a question to begin with. There's only one thing that I hate worse than bama. That's cancer and everything associated with cancer. How could anyone be ok with losing to bama? They like to point to the last three games, point to all of them from 2012.

Beating bama is coming.
Posted by la_birdman
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:23 pm to
We point to the last 3 because they all had the same head coach. The one that has yet to even have the lead in any of the previous 3 games.

I want to see O beat them but at this point, I’m not sure he’s the man to do it. Talking about only the game vs Alabama. I’ll certainly give him credit if he does and I’ll eat crow and then some.


But thank you for answering.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 9:28 pm
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:32 pm to
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We point to the last 3 because they all had the same head coach. The one that has yet to even have the lead in any of the previous 3 games



If the team isn't ready they're not ready. This is O's third year. You really counting 2016 against him?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:33 pm to
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We point to the last 3 because they all had the same head coach. The one that has yet to even have the lead in any of the previous 3 games



So you really didn't want me to answer the question. You just wanted to make a another statement. In the future if you have a point to attempt to make just make your point.
Posted by la_birdman
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:37 pm to
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So you really didn't want me to answer the question


What are you talking about? I just thanked you for finally answering it.

Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:38 pm to
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Sure. I don't know anyone happy with losing to Bama It just seems odd


It’s because LSU exceeded expectations in 2018 and is fricking crushing recruiting now. They’re running out of arguments, so they are clinging to what they have left.
Posted by la_birdman
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:39 pm to
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You really counting 2016 against him?


He was the HC, wasn’t he? I’m not allowed to do that? Just to be clear, I didn’t count it against him at the time (2016).

Two years later he’s no closer to beating them.


Or am I supposed to wait several years until I can make such a determination?
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 9:41 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:44 pm to
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They’re running out of arguments, so they are clinging to what they have left.


Mentioned it earlier that they're taking shots while they can. Just seems weird for these people to constantly focus on the negative.

No ones happy with the Troy loss. Losing 7 straight to Alabama. Just seems odd to be their focal point.

These "objective" fans just can't seem to be able to discuss the positive for some reason.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:52 pm to
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He was the HC, wasn’t he? I’m not allowed to do that? Just to be clear, I didn’t count it against him at the time (2016).

Two years later he’s no closer to beating them.


Or am I supposed to wait several years until I can make such a determination




You can do what you want to do but I can't respect anyone that can't be fair and objective in their reviews of somebody. I don't see any of that fairness that I believe that everyone deserves from certain people here so I don't have much respect for them.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:54 pm to
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No ones happy with the Troy loss. Losing 7 straight to Alabama. Just seems odd to be their focal point.

These "objective" fans just can't seem to be able to discuss the positive for some reason



The Troy thing is baffling. Some of them love to throw it up like it's relevant or something. Like anyone wants to hear it.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:03 pm to
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I have a few questions for those of u who don’t think O will succeed.


I’ll play even though this first question is an inflammatory one. I mean define “not succeed”? My concern is O tops out at the 9-3/10-2 level and doesn’t win an SEC title or playoff berth

quote:

How do u think the 2019 team compares talent wise with LSU teams in the last decade?


It looks a notch below the top teams (in chronological order 03,05,06,07,10,11,12) perhaps on par with 10,12. Hard to say what freshmen will break out but some one will.

quote:

How do we compare to our competition?


We are probably #2 in the West, it’s May so I’m not really in tune with the east off the top of my head,

quote:

What record do u think Jimbo would have with this team?


Who knows and who cares. If he was the team, staff everything would be different. I doubt he’d be worse but also not significantly better after just 2 years. I still feel like his upside is higher and worry A&M will be a huge pain in the arse soon.

This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 10:23 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:04 pm to
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Or am I supposed to wait several years


I think most of us are eagerly looking forward to the season and hoping we can do better. It's a veteran and talented group that deserve a little support. Doesn't that seem fairly reasonable?

I could cry about 7 straight losses all I want but it doesn't seem to help anything.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:08 pm to
He’s been here since 2016. This will be his 4th year as the head coach.

Again, regarding just the Bama game, he’s no closer to beating them now than he was 3 years ago.




Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31565 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:10 pm to
I give them support like I always have. I’ve given O credit when he earns it. By all means look at my post history.



You call it “crying,” I call it not being sure if our current HC will win our toughest game of the regular season. I said this to Ben earlier, if he does, I’ll be elated, I’ll eat crow and then some.

This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 10:13 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:11 pm to
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he’s no closer to beating them now than he was 3 years ago.


Well to 2019, we've got a shitlad of talent and experience so I'm sure expectations will be higher this year. I'm not sure we're "no closer to beating them"
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:12 pm to
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could cry about 7 straight losses all I want but it doesn't seem to help anything


This.


They want to cry about the last 3 losses. LSU has been losing to bama for a lot longer than that so it seems petty as hell to single out the last 3.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:13 pm to
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He’s been here since 2016. This will be his 4th year as the head coach



He was interim coach in 2016 so start being honest please.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31565 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:14 pm to
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They want to cry about the last 3 losses. LSU has been losing to bama for a lot longer than that so it seems petty as hell to single out the last 3.




So petty to include the current head coach in that. You’re right.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:14 pm to
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It’s because LSU exceeded expectations in 2018 and is fricking crushing recruiting now. They’re running out of arguments, so they are clinging to what they have left.



No one is clinging to anything. We just expect all of this potential energy to be turned into kinetic energy. To do that we have to at least be competitive vs Bama this year.

We get our arse handed to us again this year I don't want to hear "we comin" ever again.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 10:15 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:15 pm to
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I call it not being sure if our current HC will win our toughest game of the regular season.


It sounds to me you're already writing it off. I'm optimistic the talent gap is closer this season but you think we are no closer
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