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re: Orgeron: It's going to look different, because it is different

Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:48 pm to
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:48 pm to
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Well, since it’s May, the future of LSU football is still a number of months away. I don’t know how you evaluate a programs on-field performance without looking backwards at this point in time



I'm looking at the addition of Joe Brady and the change of offense. The incredible job that the staff is doing on the recruiting trail. The additions of analysts that will add continuity in the future. I'm looking at a program that is going to bring championships to LSU in the future. That's how I see it. You can choose to see it any way you like but the future looks bright to me.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:49 pm to
I see that since the other thread was anchored that y'all just picked up right where that one left off basically.

Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:50 pm to
Nothing wrong about cautious optimism after the past decade. At least there is an attempt to implement an offense that will force the opposing D to think and execute flawlessly.
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
3737 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:54 pm to
Great line of thinking. Do you apply the bright side to failure in your real life?...some of y'all need help.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:56 pm to
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Our coach is the only one that's evaluated primarily by things that haven't happened yet. 


the funny part is youd think they'd have learned not to count their chickens before they hatch.
-2017 was gonna be a 10 win season
-2018 was going to be a 10 win regular season
-2019 class was going to be top 3

People are already counting 2019 as a season where our offense is very productive.
they are already saying O was smart enough to fix the problems with the 2018 offense.

all of that could very well be true but it's not yet.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:59 pm to
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Our coach is the only one that's evaluated primarily by things that haven't happened yet



Like I said it's my opinion and it's what I see happening.

At least I don't belittle or downplay everything that the coach does. You all have to in order to keep your little shite narrative going.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 5:03 pm to
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At least I don't belittle or downplay everything that the coach does.

You certainly don’t, you just belittle and downplay everyone else.
This post was edited on 5/4/19 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 5:09 pm to
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least I don't belittle or downplay everything that the coach 


Ben in 2018 you laid the lack of offensive production at the feet of everyone except O and Ensminger.
you sure didnt have a problem calling out players by name so I dont understand why it bothers you so much when the paid coaches get the same treatment.
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shite narrative going.

there is no narrative. o was hired to win titles. he wasnt hired to have the same win loss numbers that got miles fired.
This post was edited on 5/4/19 at 6:57 pm
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/4/19 at 5:39 pm to
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o was hired to win titles. he wasnt hired to have the same win loss numbers that got miles fired



This is an example of one of your little shite narratives. Les was fired for lying to his bosses and doing nothing about his offense that he promised to fix.

The reason that it's a waste of time to try to discuss any of this with you is Because you aren't interested in an open and honest discussion about what it takes for LSU to improve moving forward. You'd rather twist words and lie for 20 pages than argue in good faith. To you it's about winning an argument. Roger doesn't mind arguing for fifty pages. The minute somebody displays dishonesty like you or rbzero I lose interest now.

Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/4/19 at 6:22 pm to
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Burrow already told the public that every pass play is different. Is he lying? Different routes and route combinations. If LSU runs four or five run pass options per game it will be wonderfull. Probably will be more than that. 11and 1 vs 9 and 3 is pretty much dependent on line play


And we hear the same damn thing every offseason for the past 8-9 years.

I hope this year is different and they actually mean it this time.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 6:27 pm to
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This is an example of one of your little shite narratives. Les was fired for lying to his bosses and doing nothing about his offense that he promised to fix.


What's ridiculous is that you think Les's firing and the hiring (and expectations) of the current coach are based on anything but wins and losses.

Les lost too many games. If the current coach doesn't significantly improve upon that, he'll be following him.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 6:28 pm to
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If Les would have won the games we were favored in he would still be the coach.


Perhaps he would. But o's having trouble as well.

Out of o's 7 losses during the 2017 and 2018 seasons, 4 of them were to teams LSU was favored to beat.

2017 Troy - 20.5 point favorite
2017 Mississippi State - 7.5 point favorite
2017 Citrus Bowl against Notre Dame - 3 point favorite
2018 Florida - 2.5 point favorite

If you want to count his interim season, he lost to a 13.5 point underdog Florida team. That would make 5 losses to teams we were favored to beat.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 6:51 pm to
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Les was fired for lying to his bosses and doing nothing about his offense that he promised to fix



talk about made up narratives.
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The reason that it's a waste of time to try to discuss any of this with you is Because you aren't interested in an open and honest discussion about what it takes for LSU to improve moving forward

except you think lsu already where it needs to be. you're perfectly fine with the results of 2017 and 2018.
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You'd rather twist words and lie for 20 pages than argue in good faith.

I use facts when i discuss. I'm sorry facts dont support your opinions.
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minute somebody displays dishonesty like you or rbzero I lose interest now. 

Ben only one of us photographical evidence of the other one in an outright lie.

remember you bashing miles offense and then the next day swearing you didnt bash miles' offense?

remember when I said zero Clemson olinemen would be drafted this draft(I was right) and you then lied and said I said no one on Clemson's team would get drafted?


I'm sorry you lie and get caught. deal with it.
and stop acting like you want any type of discussion. you want people gargling O and Ensminger nuts while also bashing players and other coaches.

people can see and remember your posts ben.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 6:52 pm to
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What's ridiculous is that you think Les's firing and the hiring (and expectations) of the current coach are based on anything but wins and losses. 



exactly.

people with a brain can see what they are doing.
they want a bullshite narrative that miles wasnt fired for losing games so they can tout win loss numbers that they bashed during the last regime.
its transparent as frick.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 6:54 pm to
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 don't see him w thatsblind loyalty, but you don't know the meaning of many words, love ke "garbage"


can someone translate this....?
I dont speak retard.

Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 7:03 pm to
Do you disavow O’s history of domestic violence?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
98007 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 7:07 pm to
How many years ago was the domestic violence stuff?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 7:09 pm to
When he was at Miami
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
98007 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 7:10 pm to
Right and wasn't that like 20 years ago?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 7:12 pm to
So how many years is the cut off for when it was okay to beat on women?
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