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re: Orgeron deserves a raise and an extension, but proceed with caution

Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:39 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:39 pm to
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Of course. The offense made A&M burn its timeouts and the defense had to do its job and hold what had been an extremely inept Mond for 1:29.



How about just getting ONE 1st down and the game would have been over...................
Posted by earl keese
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:39 pm to
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he should have ran all three


Perhaps. The offense did gain 8 yards on a first down pass play. But the decision not to run the ball on second and/or third down was really stupid.
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:40 pm to
The defense held them for almost the entire second half.

The offense did very well for almost the entire second half...

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4. A&M ran the ball very well in the first half with Trayveon Williams and established a physical tone as they doubled up LSU in rushing yardage 114-54. Tigers’ quarterback Joe Burrow was able to offset via the quarterback counter to the backside of RPOs but otherwise they couldn’t do much via their running backs.


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The second half was a different story. A&M scored a touchdown off of a muffed punt but it was the Tigers who spent the time pushing A&M around and getting blocks to turn the corner with A&M’s defense worried about Burrow.


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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:41 pm to
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How about just getting ONE 1st down and the game would have been over...


Sure, but A$M was the 2nd ranked defense vs the run. A lot easier said than done.

You play to your strength, and it failed.

Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:42 pm to
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The First Cut



Do you have something against Aranda????????????????????
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:43 pm to
These people hate Aranda because he rightfully gets more praise than 0.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:44 pm to
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o you have something against Aranda


Did I say something about Aranda?

You can say the defense did well in the second half, except for one drive.

You can also say the offense did well in the second half, except for one drive.

The same posters keep making the same claims that it's all on the offense - it isn't. It was a team breakdown.
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:45 pm to
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Sure, but A$M was the 2nd ranked defense vs the run. A lot easier said than done.



OK that's cool.... How about running the pass with your running back in that situation instead of waiting to do it in OT?????


They would have never saw it coming and it would have won the game................ Sometimes you have to be smarter than the coach across from you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:45 pm to
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These people hate Aranda


No one hates Aranda. He's a top ten coordinator
Posted by Goldrush25
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:46 pm to
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The offense did very well for almost the entire second half...



I didn't say they played badly. I asked why couldn't they be the ones to win the game for the defense for a change?
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:47 pm to
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Did I say something about Aranda?



Ys you really did............



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The same posters keep making the same claims that it's all on the offense - it isn't. It was a team breakdown.


You understand ZERO about college football...............
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14725 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:49 pm to
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I didn't say they played badly. I asked why couldn't they be the ones to win the game for the defense for a change?


Both the offense and the defense played very well in the second half until the last 2:40. The special teams hurt them in the second half with the fumble.

The same group of posters continually place all of the blame on the offense, but the offense had a good game. The strategy was to run to force A&M to use it's timeouts (a strategy Sean Payton would be smart to use). That left A&M with 1:29, no timeouts, 79 yards away and needing a touchdown. The odds are strongly in LSU's favor in that scenario.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:50 pm to
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You understand ZERO about college football..


yeah, OK
Posted by earl keese
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:50 pm to
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No one hates Aranda. He's a top ten coordinator


Aranda is a great DC. But you might want to ask Topwater Trout about people "hating" Aranda.

That guy really seems to have the red arse as far as Aranda is concerned.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296339 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:52 pm to
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Aranda is a great DC. But you might want to ask Topwater Trout about people "hating" Aranda.

That guy really seems to have the red arse as far as Aranda is concerned.


Probably thinks he's overpaid, which is kind of subjective.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66404 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 7:58 pm to
He’s not top 10, he’s the best DC in the country. Since he’s been a DC only Sabans Ds have had better numbers and that’s at 2 different schools so he’s not relying on LSU’s talent to achieve his spot.
This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 7:58 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 8:01 pm to
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He’s not top 10, he’s the best DC in the country.


That would make him top ten
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14725 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 8:03 pm to
Contrary to dukke v's comments I'm not trying to denigrate Aranda, I actually said I trust his defense more than the offense. However, I don't get your comment that only Saban's defense is better when last year LSU was 29th.

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Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33893 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 8:04 pm to
We can argue semantics on where he ranks exactly. Too many variables to say either way. He's in the elite class of DCs.

He's paid the way he's paid because the head coach did not feel confident that he could find a replacement that could approximate his performance for less money. If he could, he would've let him go to A&M.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66404 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 8:05 pm to
And he isn’t overpaid, without him we’d be a bad team. 5 losses at least this season, more last season. There’s a reason he’s paid the way he is.
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