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re: Oregon's four losses!!

Posted on 8/16/11 at 11:23 am to
Posted by JTinKC
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Posted on 8/16/11 at 11:23 am to
"It is also interesting to point out that they were unable to score 20 points against any non-conference opponent."

Is this directly related to those four losses or a general statement about everyone they played? The way that you make it sound is that Tennessee is in the PAC. I'll agree with the idea that Oregon doesn't do well against teams that have time to prepare for them, but it's not as if they were blown out the last two years. Both of their BCS bowls could have gone their way. And comparing Oregon with Masoli to Oregon with Thomas isn't going to give an accurate picture. Masoli was a good running QB with a great arm but he could not sit in the pocket and he was inaccurate.
Posted by coldhotwings
Mississippi
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Posted on 8/16/11 at 11:34 am to
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The way that you make it sound is that Tennessee is in the PAC.


Kiffen left Tennessee like a block of Swiss cheese. There were holes everywhere and they were devoid of depth. They started a lot of freshmen and quite a few of them played well but they had nothing for backups. Once the starter wore out, it was game over for the Vols.
Posted by JDubOregon
Eugene, Or
Member since Aug 2011
299 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 11:44 am to
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rarely post and i'm not sure if this has been mentioned but here’s another view of the Oregon/LSU game. Since Chip Kelly has taken oven in 2009 Oregon has lost a total of four games. Those games were lost to Boise State, Stanford, Ohio State and Auburn. After a looking into this a little I found a common them with all four of Oregon’s losses. Each one of these teams had more than one week to prepare. Boise had all summer, Stanford had a bye-week and Ohio State had the bowl prep layoff time. The same goes with Auburn. The only team that Chip Kelly has beaten with more than a week to prepare so far is New Mexico State. And it’s very obvious that the talent levels of those two teams differ immensely. In conc So with that said hopefully the trend will continue with the Tigers on top.

9/3/2009* 7:15 pm at #14 Boise State L 8–19

11/7/2009 12:30 pm at Stanford #7 L 42–51
Stanford had a bye-week

1/1/2010* 2:10 pm vs. #8 Ohio State L 17–26

1/10/2011 5:30 pm vs. #1 Auburn L 19–22



Did you just copy and paste this from ESPN? I think this info comes up daily on any sports network covering the game.
Posted by NicoBlues
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Posted on 8/16/11 at 11:58 am to


Posted by tigerjag24
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Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:38 pm to
I think he is... lol
Posted by Champs
Geaux Tigers
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Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:43 pm to
so basically the only 4 decent opponents they played
Posted by ianfson1
Houston
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:44 pm to
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The fact that Boise had a decent QB doesn't explain why Oregon only put up 8 pts against them. Auburn's D was towards the bottom of the SEC and they held the Ducks to 19. I like our defense + Jordan managing the game against Oregon.


This.
Posted by JTinKC
Member since Jul 2011
231 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:49 pm to
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Kiffen left Tennessee like a block of Swiss cheese. There were holes everywhere and they were devoid of depth. They started a lot of freshmen and quite a few of them played well but they had nothing for backups. Once the starter wore out, it was game over for the Vols.


Is it just me or did LSU need some serious luck to win against that Swiss cheese team at home?
Posted by JTinKC
Member since Jul 2011
231 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:53 pm to
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The fact that Boise had a decent QB doesn't explain why Oregon only put up 8 pts against them. Auburn's D was towards the bottom of the SEC and they held the Ducks to 19. I like our defense + Jordan managing the game against Oregon.



This.


You also have to look at who were the starters in the game. James? Nope. Thomas? Nope. The youngest offensive line probably in the country in terms of starts. It's kind of hard to try to link what happened two seasons ago. Blount and Masoli were great players but were no going to take Oregon to the Champion ship game. Blount isn't a feature back in my opinion
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/16/11 at 3:12 pm to
Yes, that's true. But to the point of the Tennessee/UO game, it was either tied or VERY close at half. Tennessee didn't even have a full roster of players last season, and the pace of UO wore them down but quick in the second half.

This isn't about LSU/Tennessee. It's about LSU/UO. LSU won't be so quick to wear down due to UOs pace. We have depth, talented depth on D.
Posted by coldhotwings
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2008
6497 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 3:52 pm to
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Is it just me or did LSU need some serious luck to win against that Swiss cheese team at home?



Crowton's offense couldn't get any rhythm going. By the time the play got called and all the subs came in, the Vol D was already well rested.
Posted by ccsolee
Oregon
Member since Dec 2010
233 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 8:33 pm to
I'll give you a snapshot of those games, since I watched them all.

Boise St - turf game, Chip Kelly's first as a head coach. Defense could NOT get the ball back. Masoli's first game as the full time starter to open a season. Too much side to side action with Blount for no yardage (including a safety). NO passing game. Lost three guys from the offensive line to the NFL. New center, several redshirt freshmen on the line. There were almost no lanes to run through. Excellent gap control by BSU.

Stanford - turf game again. Back and forth slugest. Chris Owusu and other tall Stanford receivers ate Oregon's cornerbacks alive (including Harris, who was pushed out of the way on a touchdown pass into the endzone). Oregon scored enough, but gave up massive pass plays to the big wideouts and took a pounding from Toby Gearhart when Stanford ran a flop o-line and two fullbacks in the backfield with Gearhart. Gearhart's highest rushing total of the season I think.

Ohio State - Grass field. Oregon is slower on grass believe it or not. TV game, multiple time outs for commercials. Oregon ran 3 plays and out, or three/four plays and TV timeout. It killed the rhythm offense. Masoli had to scramble to see an open lane. LaMichael James was shut down regularly. Had Blount not fumbled, they would have won. Terrelle Pryor's best game as a semi-pro also. Oregon contained Pryor, except twice when it really mattered.

Auburn - grass game, the field sucked. Not an excuse, it sucked for both teams. It hurt Oregon worse because Oregon is smaller and relies on the side to side running game. Oregon did contain Newton except a couple times when it really counted. An iso play where Kenny Rowe (DE) was supposed to pick up a wideout and didn't gave Auburn a touchdown. Darron Thomas threw for a lot of yards but Oregon kept getting shut down at the goal line. Kelly should have taken the field goals, but hadn't played that way the whole year. Fairly was a beast. LaMichael missed the hole for a TD in the first half and they got nothing because of it. Then there's the whole down/not down thing. Oh well, should have played to the whistle.

Oregon relies on tempo, getting the ball back, rhythm, and misdirection. Oregon doesn't have a power running game, they create mismatches in space and zone block to create lanes. What will be different this year is the receiving corps. Maehl torched Auburn's DBs, but nobody else did anything. You'll see receivers step up this year. If Oregon can make it to the half within 2 touchdowns either way, they can win it.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/16/11 at 8:35 pm to
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Another thing all 4 of those teams had in common was a decent qb.



OOOHHHHH ffffuuuuucccccckkkkk!
Posted by JDubOregon
Eugene, Or
Member since Aug 2011
299 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 8:36 pm to
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Stanford - turf game again


Pretty good analysis but Stanford was also a grass game.
Posted by ccsolee
Oregon
Member since Dec 2010
233 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:17 pm to
I was replaying that in my head. Was sure it was turf, but I might have been picturing Cal instead.
Posted by JDubOregon
Eugene, Or
Member since Aug 2011
299 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 9:18 pm to
Cal is Turf but the farm is Natural. I remember a few runs LMJ was pulling the crap out of his helmet afterwards.
Posted by JTinKC
Member since Jul 2011
231 posts
Posted on 8/17/11 at 3:06 pm to
I thought the NCG was on turf?
Posted by JDubOregon
Eugene, Or
Member since Aug 2011
299 posts
Posted on 8/17/11 at 3:38 pm to
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I thought the NCG was on turf?


I wish. It was the worst quality grass field I had ever seen for a game that big. The stuff was flying up in chunks behind the players running. It had only been set for a week.
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