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re: Official QB Thread...(do not start a new thread to discuss QB's)

Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by learnthehardway
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Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:44 pm to
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I think it's faster than that. Jefferson has **maybe** the first half of MooState. He sucks this time, he's done.



I want to agree with this. i see JJ's rope as pretty damn short right now
Posted by DeltaDoc
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Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:44 pm to
My post for the official QB thread...

Neither QB is a good option, period. As a result, our inability to pass will ultimately lead to the demise of LSUs season and potentially Miles tenure at LSU.

Reason being, people will recognize we cannot pass and stack the box, effectively stopping our running game. State will be the first to really try this, and as such, this will be a good litmus test for the rest of the season.

One bright spot, a Lee led LSU team in 2008 averaged 31 points per game but lost several games because of horrid defense. Well, the defense is outstanding this year and deep. We should be in all games going into the fourth quarter.

In the SEC, you don't have to have a world-beater at QB, only a QB that can convert third downs and keep a defense honest. As of the moment, JJ does not fit that bill. We can only speculate that Lee fits that bill.

One encouraging sign to me about Lee is the physical shape he came into this season with in view of past years. He seems to be serious about playing (or starting) and is not backing down after tons of adversity.

Lee at least needs a shot when the lights are brightest, not in garbage time when the game is in hand.

I think Les and GC need to get Lee into the game at least two series in the first three quarters to see how he and the team respond this weekend.

I think the love that Lee would receive in Tiger Stadium this weekend might help erase many bad memories for the kid from the past couple of years, especially if he comes in and leads us to a score or two.
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:44 pm to
GOD BLESS YOU CHICKEN

I have been begging for a comprehensive thread on the QB situation since Saturday night, it has been out of hand since the 4th quarter and the \"5 yard pass heard around the world\"

Try not and take so long next time
Posted by Sammobile
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:45 pm to
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TigerWilson88

random

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Sorry, your just a minority.

This post was edited on 9/13/10 at 3:47 pm
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:46 pm to
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Florida 06 pops right out of my mind. They won a NC with Tebow and Leak splitting time.
I don't think that compares...Tebow was a niche QB that year, brought in for short yardage and goal line play primarily.
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:46 pm to
i don't know if JL will do any better than JJ but i'd like to find out.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:46 pm to
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I want to agree with this. i see JJ's rope as pretty damn short right now


It has to be short. You cannot have a quarterback that can't move your offense and allows defenses to stack the box.

Someone who cannot provide a ball to your receivers so that they can utilize their speed and skills in space. Failing to do so again and again, as JJ has done THIS YEAR....will not bode well as teams with more speed are able to press on these issues even harder.

The rope has to be short, because you would need JL to have significant time in game situations with the #1 offense before the meat of the schedule hits. Making a switch like that before a major opponent is setting the kid up for failure.
Posted by learnthehardway
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:47 pm to
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he shocking fact is that Miles says they have no plans of playing Lee at all this week despite the abysmal performance by Jefferson last week. He "can't even envision that". As if the fans are complete idiots for thinking PERHAPS Lee could help our stagnant passing game so maybe he should be given a few snaps to see what he could do. Nope. Let stick with what hasn't been working for over a year now. They are not even going to give him a chance. Not even a series or two. Very puzzling.



this is not entirely true after reading the actual quote. also LM is not gonna say anything of any substance to the media. why would he ?
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:47 pm to
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Sorry, your just a minority.


I thought you might like that sam
Posted by MrKnowItAll
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:47 pm to
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Fast forward to last Saturday...while Jefferson stunk,

Oh great chicken man, does thou ignore your own rule of not talking bad about a player or will you whack yourself? (Would this be called whacking the chicken?)
Posted by The312
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:47 pm to
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can you give me some examples?


Well, the 2006 Florida NC team immediately comes to mind.


Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:48 pm to
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I don't think that compares...Tebow was a niche QB that year, brought in for short yardage and goal line play primarily.


He was instrumental at beating us...stupid jump pass.
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:48 pm to
Chicken, another solid idea might be a poll either on the board or on the homepage as to which QB the fanbase would like to see play/start on Saturday

This way, we will truly know how the all-encompassing masses of the tigerdroppings family stand
Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:48 pm to
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i don't know if JL will do any better than JJ but i'd like to find out.

agreed, if jefferson plays like he did last game, Lee should play
Posted by CarlockLSU
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Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:48 pm to
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DeltaDoc


I agree 100%
Posted by msutiger
Houston
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Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:48 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/8/23 at 1:16 pm
Posted by jlsutiger
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:49 pm to
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can you give me some examples?
off top of my head. Georgia in 2002 won SEC title w/ Shockley getting a few series a game. Spurrier did it several years in the late 90s. Vandy a couple of years ago had their first winning season in 25 years with a 2 QB system. And of course LSU did it throughout the Charlie Mac era. Not saying these are great examples, just listing some off top of my head. I'm also not in favor of a true 2 QB system unless QB #2 brings a totally different skill set to the table.
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:50 pm to
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poll either on the board or on the homepage as to which QB the fanbase would like to see play/start on Saturday


Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:50 pm to
I've seen some other programs splitting time with QBs and been successful but they usually have some different quality about them. Like one is more athletic than the other, while the other is a pro style. Kinda like using multiple RBs.

I don't think JJ is a running QB like LSU wants. He looks extremely uncomfortable doing so. He seems like like a Pro style QB...who can run at times. Yet, Crowton wants to devise schemes to make him run. I just don't get it.

The problem with the offense is far more than just JL/JJ, its definitely the scheme and Crowton's inability to adjust it to player strengths. I know this isn't about coaches but I think it directly affects how JJ/JL play as well as the rest.
Posted by learnthehardway
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Member since Oct 2007
10023 posts
Posted on 9/13/10 at 3:50 pm to
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Jefferson stunk,


this is not over the top , its actually fairly accurate and respectful considering. i think chicken should give himself a pass on this one
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