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Posted on 9/14/10 at 5:16 pm to TheDoc
did you ra me yest doc?
Posted on 9/14/10 at 5:26 pm to spindoctor2008
I didnt really see that much of intrest in it.
He failed to mention anything about our stagnet offense since JJ has started and as many of you other idiots harped on what JL did as a redshirt freshman, without mentioning that LSU's def that year was sorriest in recent memory.
He failed to mention anything about our stagnet offense since JJ has started and as many of you other idiots harped on what JL did as a redshirt freshman, without mentioning that LSU's def that year was sorriest in recent memory.
Posted on 9/14/10 at 5:28 pm to BT
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did you ra me yest doc?
Speak English
Posted on 9/14/10 at 5:28 pm to TheDoc
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Miles is illogical when I hear him talk about Jefferson and lee.
Has Miles ever been logical or coherent since 07'?
quote:
Televangelists: The Pro Wrestlers of religion
Posted on 9/14/10 at 6:02 pm to grif82
"look, we know JJ hasnt gotten better since last year, but dog gone it we've spent all this time kinda sorta developing him in a half assed way and we want to see if he can dramatically change his play in 5 days. Oh and were scared shitless of jarrett lee. Just saying."
-miles
-miles
Posted on 9/14/10 at 6:05 pm to TheDoc
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"look, we know JJ hasnt gotten better since last year, but dog gone it we've spent all this time kinda sorta developing him in a half assed way and we want to see if he can dramatically change his play in 5 days. Oh and were scared shitless of jarrett lee. Just saying."
-miles
Posted on 9/14/10 at 6:06 pm to learnthehardway
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But the best opportunity to win is what makes that call.
---Miles, on starting Jefferson over Lee
And just more proof he doesn't have a clue what it takes to get this team to a championship
Posted on 9/14/10 at 6:12 pm to just me
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Please, show me the game statistics that demonstrate that Lee has more long pass completions than Jefferson. I'll wait.
Jarrett Lee (20+ yd pass completions)
** take into account he split a lot of time with Hatch in his 10 games.
quote:
L 1-5 A31 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 31 yards to the ASU0,1ST DOWN LS, TOUCHDOWN, clock 05:35, Josh Jasper kick attempt good. L 1-10 A39 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 39 yards to the ASU0, 1ST DOWN LS, TOUCHDOWN, clock 10:03, Josh Jasper kick attempt good. L 3-8 L25 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Richard Murphy for 28 yards to the NT47, 1ST DOWN LS, out-of-bounds (Hill,Kylie). L 3-10 A39 Jarrett Lee middle pass complete to Chris Mitchell for 39 yards to the AU0, 1ST DOWN LS, TOUCHDOWN, clock 06:28, QB hurry by Spencer Pybus. Colt David kick attempt good. 1-10 L22 Jarrett Lee LSL pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 33 yards to the AU45, 1ST DOWN LS, out-of-bounds (Zac Etheridge). 1-10 A45 Jarrett Lee middle pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 23 yards to the AU22, 1ST DOWN LS (Jerraud Powers). L 2-3 L34 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 30 yards to the MS36, 1ST DOWN LS, out-of-bounds (Keith Fitzhugh), PENALTY MS face mask (Keith Fitzhugh) 15 yards to the MS21, 1ST DOWN LS. L 2-13 L36 Jarrett Lee pass complete to T. Toliver for 31 yards to the MS33, 1ST DOWN LS (Jasper O'Quinn). L 3-5 M43 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Demetrius Byrd for 43 yards to the MS0, 1ST DOWN LS, TOUCHDOWN, clock 04:54, Colt David kick attempt good. L 1-15 L35 Jarrett Lee sideline pass complete to T. Toliver for 24 yards to the UF41, 1ST DOWN LS, out-of-bounds (Wright, M.). L 2-10 L16 [S1], Jarrett Lee deep pass complete to Demetrius Byrd for 22 yards to the LS38, 1ST DOWN LS (Black, A.). L 1-10 L35 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 23 yards to the SC42, 1ST DOWN LS (Emanuel Cook). 1-10 L44 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Demetrius Byrd for 36 yards to the SC20, 1STDOWN LS (A. Williams). L 2-4 L26 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Richard Dickson for 20 yards to the LS46, 1ST DOWN LS (Marcus Dowtin). L 2-5 G37 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Demetrius Byrd for 35 yards to the GA2, 1ST DOWN LS, out-of-bounds (Vance Cuff;Reshad Jones). L 3-9 L28 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Ke. Williams for 66 yards to the GA6, 1ST DOWN LS, out-of-bounds (Bryan Evans). L 2-5 G43 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 43 yards to the GA0, 1ST DOWN LS, TOUCHDOWN, clock 02:27 L 2-5 T39 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 29 yards to the TULANE10, 1ST DOWN LS, out-of-bounds (HARRIS, Charles). L 2-10 A30 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Demetrius Byrd for 30 yards to the UA0, 1ST DOWN LS, TOUCHDOWN, clock 06:21. L 2-8 L23 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Richard Dickson for 22 yards to the LS45, 1ST DOWN LS (D. Hightower;Marquis Johnson). L 2-10 L31 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 29 yards to the UA40, 1ST DOWN LS, out-of-bounds (Kareem Jackson). L 2-8 A49 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 24 yards to the UA25, 1ST DOWN LS (Rashad Johnson). L 1-10 L29 Jarrett Lee pass complete to T. Toliver for 33 yards to the TROY38, 1ST DOWN LS (Ford, T.). L 2-5 T33 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 33 yards to the TROY0, 1ST DOWN LS, TOUCHDOWN, clock 14:00.
Total of 25 (a few may have been due to YAC)
Jordan Jefferson (20+ yd completions)
**through just his first 10 games starting with Ole Miss
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L 2-20 L32 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to Jared Mitchell for 21 yards to the UM47, 1ST DOWN LS (Lewis,Kendrick). L 2-5 A29 Jo. Jefferson sideline pass complete to Quinn Johnson for 24 yards to the AR5, 1ST DOWN LS. L 1-10 A32 Jo. Jefferson deep pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 32 yards to the AR0,1ST DOWN LS, TOUCHDOWN, clock 13:06. L 1-10 T36 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 20 yards to the GT16,1ST DOWN LS (Reid, R.). L 1-10 L14 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 86 yards to the GT0, clock 13:05, PENALTY LS holding off-setting, PENALTY GT roughing passer off-setting, NO PLAY. V 2-10 W45 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to T. Toliver for 45 yards to the WASH0, 1ST DOWN LS, TOUCHDOWN, clock 01:15. V 1-5 W39 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to T. Toliver for 39 yards to the WASH0, 1ST DOWN LS, TOUCHDOWN, clock 05:50. V 2-3 W47 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to T. Toliver for 25 yards to the WASH22, 1STDOWN LS, out-of-bounds (Foster, Mason). L 3-6 L35 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to R.J. Jackson for 30 yards to the VANDY35 1ST DOWN LS, out-of-bounds (Hayward,Casey). L 1-10 V25 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 20 yards to the VANDY5, 1ST DOWN LS (Richardson,Sean). L 3-3 U20 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 20 yards to the ULL0, 1ST DOWN LS, TOUCHDOWN, clock 10:53. L 1-10 U32 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 21 yards to the ULL11, 1ST DOWN LS (Blount, Gerren;Auriene, Orkeys). L 1-10 L50 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to T. Toliver for 39 yards to the MS11, 1ST DOWN LS (M. Washington). 1-10 L42 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 58 yards to the MS0, 1ST DOWN LS, TOUCHDOWN, clock 13:30. Josh Jasper kick attempt good. L 2-6 M47 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to R.J. Jackson for 40 yards to the MS7, 1ST DOWN LS (K.J. Wright). L 2-7 G49 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 34 yards to the GA15, 1ST DOWN LS, out-of-bounds (Reshad Jones). L 2-9 L40 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to T. Toliver for 29 yards to the GA31, 1ST DOWN LS (Reshad Jones). L 1-10 L31 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 26 yards to the UF43, 1ST DOWN LS, out-of-bounds (Anderson, M.). L 3-5 L22 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to Ke. Williams for 20 yards to the LS42, 1ST DOWN LS, out-of-bounds (Zac Etheridge). L 3-8 A43 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to Tr. Holliday for 26 yards to the AU17, 1ST DOWN LS (Craig Stevens). L 3-12 L44 Jo. Jefferson pass complete to Rueben Randle for 31 yards to the AU25,1ST DOWN LS, out-of-bounds (D. Washington).
Total of 21 (some may have been due to YAC)
Therefore, there really is no difference between the deep completion of either QB. And for the record, Jefferson likely has a TON more as I stopped counting at the Auburn game leaving Tulane, Alabama, La Tech, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Penn St., UNC, and Vanderbilt unused.
Posted on 9/14/10 at 6:14 pm to Cheetah Flex
Miles is having the "want" to play Lee but just does not know how to say it or go about doing it. I would let the team Captains at this point decide if Miles is having trouble. If it were the other way around and Lee had a piss poor game after two starts this year, the "want" to put Lee on the bench would be there. What happened in 2008 and 09 with Lee is beyond the current problem we have now. I like being in the present tense of 2010.
Posted on 9/14/10 at 6:16 pm to msutiger
I am now a believer ----- DAMN that man is as hard headed as they come. l
We all know who should be playing. Les has gone mad.
Please
it's not your fault.
We all know who should be playing. Les has gone mad.
Please
it's not your fault.
Posted on 9/14/10 at 6:36 pm to BT
Here is my take.
JJ was awful on Saturday. There is no sugarcoating it.
Lee should have been brought in MUCH earlier than he was. The fact that he wasn't may speak volumes about Lee's ability, or the coaches confidence in Lee.
That said, I think Lee needs to see the field alot more. Nothing akin to alternating series. . .but a series or 2 a half would be great.
JJ's leash needs to be tightened considerably.
JJ was awful on Saturday. There is no sugarcoating it.
Lee should have been brought in MUCH earlier than he was. The fact that he wasn't may speak volumes about Lee's ability, or the coaches confidence in Lee.
That said, I think Lee needs to see the field alot more. Nothing akin to alternating series. . .but a series or 2 a half would be great.
JJ's leash needs to be tightened considerably.
Posted on 9/14/10 at 6:45 pm to Roaad
Mike scarbourough said yest that if were left to GC that JL would start.
LM is bigger on JJ than crowton is.
Actually the following is pretty simple and its not my opinion its a fact.
LM said they were going to "dumbdown" simplify playcalls/book for JJ... what does that mean? we are going to run one or two running plays and 2 passing plays.
This guy is a jr and we are folding the playbook in
seriously??? anyone else see a problem here?
There is a reason why the read option is a play we run over and over... its pretty simple de crashes JJ takes off around the end, he stays put he hands away to ridley... its a good play but notice next time how often we run it.
IMO there are things GC would like to do with this offense and these 5 star athletes that JJ isnt able to deliver and thats why he is bigger on JL.
JMHO.
LM is bigger on JJ than crowton is.
Actually the following is pretty simple and its not my opinion its a fact.
LM said they were going to "dumbdown" simplify playcalls/book for JJ... what does that mean? we are going to run one or two running plays and 2 passing plays.
This guy is a jr and we are folding the playbook in
seriously??? anyone else see a problem here? There is a reason why the read option is a play we run over and over... its pretty simple de crashes JJ takes off around the end, he stays put he hands away to ridley... its a good play but notice next time how often we run it.
IMO there are things GC would like to do with this offense and these 5 star athletes that JJ isnt able to deliver and thats why he is bigger on JL.
JMHO.
Posted on 9/14/10 at 6:48 pm to BT
As long as Lee gets some snaps, everything should fall into place.
Posted on 9/14/10 at 6:48 pm to BT
quote:Dude. . .Skike is fricking worthless, and I guarantee you he just applied his own opinion to Crowton.
Mike scarbourough
Got another source? I am not saying this isn't true, I don't know that it isn't. I am saying I can't accept anything Skike says as fact.
Dandy Don and Finebaum have more credibility.
quote:It means he has so little confidence in Lee that he is willing to go to great pains to tailor the offense to Jefferson.
Actually the following is pretty simple and its not my opinion its a fact.
LM said they were going to "dumbdown" simplify playcalls/book for JJ... what does that mean?
This post was edited on 9/14/10 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 9/14/10 at 6:57 pm to Chicken
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do not start a new thread to discuss QB's
Posted on 9/14/10 at 7:06 pm to Roaad
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Dude. . .Skike is fricking worthless, and I guarantee you he just applied his own opinion to Crowton.
actually he said his closest media source told him this.
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It means he has so little confidence in Lee that he is willing to go to great pains to tailor the offense to Jefferson.
Funny you say that b/c just yest in presser LM said the exact opposite.
Posted on 9/14/10 at 7:15 pm to RBWilliams8
I happen to believe part of the problem is when miles and everyone else wanted desperately to have lee benched. Now jordan jefferson is not playing up to everyone's expectations and wants him benched. All the while miles has already made up his mind after everything lee put us through and is scared to death he will do it again.
I mean scoring for the other team does kinda suck
Add to the fact that no one really plays lights out the first two games. I honestly think he thinks Jefferson will come around. And he just might.
We will find out.
And yes i want lee to play badly like everyone else. If anything he is more exciting to watch. But i still have memories of him throwing the ball into the grass like a little girl because he was afraid to get hit.
See, he started out good and got worse just like Jefferson. WHo is to say he wont do it again?
If it were spurrier he would have gone through all the qb's already and probably have one of the lb'ers playing qb by now.
I mean scoring for the other team does kinda suck
Add to the fact that no one really plays lights out the first two games. I honestly think he thinks Jefferson will come around. And he just might.
We will find out.
And yes i want lee to play badly like everyone else. If anything he is more exciting to watch. But i still have memories of him throwing the ball into the grass like a little girl because he was afraid to get hit.
See, he started out good and got worse just like Jefferson. WHo is to say he wont do it again?
If it were spurrier he would have gone through all the qb's already and probably have one of the lb'ers playing qb by now.
Posted on 9/14/10 at 7:31 pm to BT
quote:Was it Siskel, or Ebert?
actually he said his closest media source told him this.
quote:Milespeak.
Funny you say that b/c just yest in presser LM said the exact opposite.
If he had confidence in Lee, Lee would have started the 2nd half.
Period.
Posted on 9/14/10 at 7:38 pm to Choctaw
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He checked to RS...then to the WR streaking the sidelines...then threw it to RR who caught it at the 1 yard line. Not sure what else he could've done.
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Choctaw
I agree with most you of the time.
You are correct JJ hit RR for a big play TD.
How many times has JJ done this though? He doesn't cosistently make that throw. Give him the exact same play and exact same circumstances 5 more times and I bet he misses on at least 3 of them.
JL needs some PT in case JJ goes down. If JJ doesn't perform in the 1st Q then put JL in the 2nd Q. Go with the hot hand on this one.
i don't care who starts...JUST WIN and look good doing it.
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