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re: "offensively, there will be a definite switch in philosophy"
Posted on 4/4/12 at 11:58 am to That LSU Guy
Posted on 4/4/12 at 11:58 am to That LSU Guy
Good job, guys.
Having a riveting conversation about our two starting QB's going into the 2012 season.
Oh wait...
Having a riveting conversation about our two starting QB's going into the 2012 season.
Oh wait...
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Posted on 4/4/12 at 1:05 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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our total yds and scoring had increased from what it had been at the end of 8 games.
and he posted why that was wrong.
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How you can see one as "stout" and the other as "a pile of shite" is beyond me, but each to our one.
he has eyes.
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after 8 games LSU averaged 357 yds and 38 pts a game.
No. They averaged 372 yds per game and 39 points per game.
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After 14 games and after playing the #1 and # 5 ranked D's in the nation LSU averaged 355 yds and 36 pts a game.
No. They averaged 359 yds and 36 pts per game.
In addition while you are correct they did play the #1 and #5 defenses they also played
Western Kentucky, Ole Miss, and Arky.
let's consider passing yardage as well. That is very important:
1st 8 games- 183 passing yards a game
after 14 games- 153 passing yards a game
games in which Jefferson was starting QB (Bama, W. Kentucky, Ole Miss, Arky, UGA, Bama)-
112 passing yards a game.
This post was edited on 4/4/12 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 4/4/12 at 1:10 pm to SteveLSU35
"finally"?
Mett was on the team last year wasn't he?
Why is he suddenly good enough to take over now but wasn't "ready" to try something different January 9?
Mett was on the team last year wasn't he?
Why is he suddenly good enough to take over now but wasn't "ready" to try something different January 9?
Posted on 4/4/12 at 1:14 pm to GABlueDog
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Are you familiar with the old saying "garbage in garbage out?" It applies with those stats
Out of curiosity, have you ever taken a statistics class taught by Dr. Chun?
Posted on 4/4/12 at 1:37 pm to fab4lsu
Has there ever been so much optimism with losing two senior QBs? Normally senior QBs are prized and offenses take a step back when one leaves.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 4:45 pm to biglego
Lonnie?
Posted on 4/4/12 at 4:54 pm to adammwilson
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let's consider passing yardage as well. That is very important:
You can consider anything you want, but the comment was the "offense" went from "stout" to a "pile of shite" with the QB change.
The offense after the 1st Bama game was averaging 357+ yds a game and LSU was scoring 35+ points a game.
At the end of the regular season, the LSU offense was averaging 386+ yards and LSU was scoring 38+ a game.
After the SEC championship game, we were averaging 375+ a game and scoring 38+ a game.
For the season, LSU averaged 355+ in offensive yardage and scoring 35 a game.
The only "pile of shite" I see in all that, is the BCSCG.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 4:55 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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The offense after the 1st Bama game was averaging 357+ yds a game and LSU was scoring 35+ points a game.
At the end of the regular season, the LSU offense was averaging 386+ yards and LSU was scoring 38+ a game.
After the SEC championship game, we were averaging 375+ a game and scoring 38+ a game.
For the season, LSU averaged 355+ in offensive yardage and scoring 35 a game.
The only "pile of shite" I see in all that, is the BCSCG.
no Lonnie read my post again. You calculated it wrong.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 4:59 pm to biglego
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Has there ever been so much optimism with losing two senior QBs? Normally senior QBs are prized and offenses take a step back when one leaves.
Why shouldn't there be? We were on a 71-29 tilt last year and that brought us an SEC title, undefeated regular season, and trip to the NC game. We basically return the bulk of our offensive line, our entire running back corp, our fullback, and finally have a player that can complete some passes on a consistent basis.
Can you explain to me why we shouldn't be optimistic?
Posted on 4/4/12 at 6:27 pm to Tiger Authority
This thread is about a change in offensive philosophy and a switch to a more verticle passing attack, which was effidenced in the spring game. I like the thought of utilizing our entire offense finally. Neither QB lit the world on fire the last few years however you come down on the QB debate. WE could have done more with the passing attack last season IMO, but apparantly Miles didn't have faith in either QB to do that. Glad that he apparantly does now with Mett. Time for you people to move on.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 6:42 pm to adammwilson
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define horrible.
Uh 98 yards against Oregon. Horrible against Kentucky and back to back ints leading to both Bama's fg
Posted on 4/4/12 at 6:44 pm to adammwilson
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Don't mention the Bama game (too small a sample size), don't mention the Western Kentucky game (too small a sample size).
In other words. Don't mention games he played bad in because it doesn't help my arguement
Posted on 4/4/12 at 6:46 pm to adammwilson
If we don't have JJ for the option , we dot win against Bama. Period. And yes JJ against Arky was the best qb performance all season. He outperformed Wilson and outrushed Arky's entire team with one carry.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 6:48 pm to cajunjj
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Any u cut It JJ SUCKED for 4 years!!!!!
Hey bruh, did you think Flynn sucked in 07?
Posted on 4/4/12 at 6:55 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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98 yards against Oregon
the leading receiver in that game was Peterson for cryin out loud.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 6:55 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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In other words. Don't mention games he played bad in because it doesn't help my arguement
no that has absolutely nothing to do with it but I'm not going to count a game where he threw less than 10 passes.Posted on 4/4/12 at 7:00 pm to Lonnie4LSU
Lonnie they don like stats. They say JJ sucked his entire career when in fact as a true sophomore he had a higher qb rating than Matt Flynn ( who is widely considered great on this site)in 07.
I have no idea why Adam kiper cares what happens at LSU. The bottom line is that, the coaching staff didt think Lee's minimal passing advantage over JJ was enough to make up for JJ's legs. I myself wanted Lee to remain the starter but can admit he was inconstant as well. The Oregon he was horrible, but Adam mcshay says it was the wr not getting open. It's funny that when JJ was the starter , all offensive woes are his fault. When Lee is the starter all offensive woes are because of the wr not getting open or the oline not pass blocking well enough.
Adam Mayock wants to tell you that the reason Lee had a 40ish completion % against Kentucky because our wr suck. He also says forget that our offensive yardage stayed the same after Bama. He could tell with "his eyes" we weren't better.
Also he wants you believe that he, a couch coach, knows more about LSU's qb situation than all of LSU's coaching staff. He also doesn't wants you to believe that it was Lee's fault he lost his starting job , but Miles is a man of character and would rather his names get dragged through mud by anonymous posters on a message board , than throw a player o his under the bus.
I have no idea why Adam kiper cares what happens at LSU. The bottom line is that, the coaching staff didt think Lee's minimal passing advantage over JJ was enough to make up for JJ's legs. I myself wanted Lee to remain the starter but can admit he was inconstant as well. The Oregon he was horrible, but Adam mcshay says it was the wr not getting open. It's funny that when JJ was the starter , all offensive woes are his fault. When Lee is the starter all offensive woes are because of the wr not getting open or the oline not pass blocking well enough.
Adam Mayock wants to tell you that the reason Lee had a 40ish completion % against Kentucky because our wr suck. He also says forget that our offensive yardage stayed the same after Bama. He could tell with "his eyes" we weren't better.
Also he wants you believe that he, a couch coach, knows more about LSU's qb situation than all of LSU's coaching staff. He also doesn't wants you to believe that it was Lee's fault he lost his starting job , but Miles is a man of character and would rather his names get dragged through mud by anonymous posters on a message board , than throw a player o his under the bus.
This post was edited on 4/4/12 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 4/4/12 at 7:02 pm to adammwilson
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the leading receiver in that game was Peterson for cryin out loud.
You learnt didt see Lee throwing balls in the dirt. I've seen the all
22 of that game and there is every throw lee made on YouTube. Go watch it. He played horrible in the first half. Outside one jump ball to RR.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 7:06 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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JJ against Arky was the best qb performance all season.
in your opinion. I would say the best was Lee's VS Tenn.
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outrushed Arky's entire team with one carry.
an Arky team that was missing Knile Davis. Plus, I will take a QB that can pass any day over one that can run. It's not like that carry had some big impact on the game. Both LSU RB's both had over 90 yards rushing.
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He outperformed Wilson
no he didn't. Their stat line was almost the same except Wilson's average was 9.4 while Jefferson's was only 7.2.
Posted on 4/4/12 at 7:07 pm to adammwilson
Look I wanted Lee to remain the starter too but it doesn't make me blind to the fact that he played inconsistent too. The Oregon game wasn't on the receivers. He repeatedly threw balls in the dirt.
How come when Lee was the starter and he had a bad game, it was never his fault?
When JJ had a bad game, it's all on him.
How come when Lee was the starter and he had a bad game, it was never his fault?
When JJ had a bad game, it's all on him.
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