re: "offensively, there will be a definite switch in philosophy"

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Stop trying to spin bullshite hater.
Throw some stats out with your propaganda

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How ironic. And everyone should notice who bumped this thread, originally started by Papa JJ. I am really trying to forget the past 4 years and be excited about this year's edition, then the King of the DB nation bumps this POS. What it needs is a big old

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You are a dumb frick, and I really hesitate posting that.
There were less than great efforts early season vs lesser much Ds.
Stop trying to spin bullshite hater.
Throw some stats out with your propaganda.

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You want stats? I'll give you some fricking stats.

Games 1-9, Oregon thru Bama, LSU offense averaged 33.3 ppg. Games 9-14, LSU offense averaged 25.1 ppg. I am including the first Bama game in the discussed stats of both Lee and JJ because I think that is fair; both played in that game as Lee played most of the first half and JJ played the second half. And believe me, you want me to include the first Bama game stats for both players because they hurt Lee's overall numbers and help JJ's overall numbers. But let's take it even one step further and take away the first Bama game in averaging LSU's offense under JJ. LSU's offense then averages 28 ppg. I ask you a simple question...which number is higher?

You will say that we played crappy defenses in the first 9 games while JJ had to play against UGA and Bama. Well, LSU played the fricking Western Kentucky Hilltoppers, a lower than crap Ole Miss and their 96th-ranked defense, and the vaunted scary Arkansas defense under JJ...that's half his games. And LSU played Bama, Tennessee, Florida, Miss State all in the first 9 games with Lee starting. Every one of those teams had defenses ranked in the top 40 in the country.

In the first 9 games, LSU offense had 182 first downs for an average of 20.2 pg. In the last 6 games, we had 103 first downs for an average of 17.1 pg. Again, I'm counting the first Bama game for both qbs because that is fair; they both played a lot in that game.

How about one of our top playmakers and weapons, Rueben Randle, one of the top WRs in the SEC and the country, having 7 TDs through the first 9 games. In the games in which LSU started JJ, he had 1 TD. Did he suddenly become a bad player? Or did he suddenly have a qb who could not throw the fricking ball or read a defense?

Finally, there is something that stats don't reveal and that is how stopping the LSU offense became a lot easier to solve once you took away the ability to throw the ball downfield. It was clear as the blue sky against UGA. Stack the box, contain the edges, and force the qb to make some throws downfield to stretch the defense and keep them honest against the run. Our offense at that point was one-dimensional. Run the ball, primarily with the qb. JJ had 15 carries on 1/9; the next player that touched the ball the most was Hilliard with 5 touches. Some of our best players, our WRs, might as well have not even suited up for the game because they were non-factors in the plan.

So I ask you: do you still think the offense of the first 9 games was "less than great vs lesser much Ds" (your poor grammar)? Do you think the offense of the last several games was so much better?

I'll hang up and wait for your stupid fricking answers.

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LSU averaged 357 yards and 36 points a game in our 1st 8 games.

LSU was averaging 387 yards and 38 points at the end on the regular season.

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ruh roh

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uh roh

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Are you familiar with the old saying "garbage in garbage out?" It applies with those stats.

He is including defensive and special teams scoring. Those are not the offensive numbers.

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Going into the game banking on JJ along was just retarded and here's the thing. I don't think Miles is retarded. Hence, his reasons for not giving JL a shot in games after 5 Nov were shite.

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JJ had the best game of either qb all year against arky.also we dont win on Nov. 5th without JJ. Check my post history. I wanted Lee to remain the starter but it doesn't make me blind to facts.

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He had some horrible games as well.

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define horrible.

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Bama

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this is more an opinion type feedback but I firmly believe the 2nd int would have never happened had Miles not benched JL.

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Oregon

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I put that on the WR's that didn't get open. The leading WR for that game for LSU was Peterson which is humorous.

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all were bad games for lee, but yeah he was consistent. It's sad posters have to make shite up.

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it's not making anything up.

Any stat you look at pretty much tells you the story- he was consistent and did what he needed too so LSU could win.

Don't mention the Bama game (too small a sample size), don't mention the Western Kentucky game (too small a sample size).

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GABlueDog

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173 yds a game after 8 games and 171 a game after 12 games.

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Yeah, it helps Jefferson's stats a lot to leave out his two worst games.

Your comment I addressed in my post was:

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Our offense was stout this year, with good QB play...for the first 8 games.

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My comment was that after the 12 game regular season, both our total yds and scoring had increased from what it had been at the end of 8 games.

How you can see one as "stout" and the other as "a pile of shite" is beyond me, but each to our one.

If you was to include post season play:

after 8 games LSU averaged 357 yds and 38 pts a game.

After 14 games and after playing the #1 and # 5 ranked D's in the nation LSU averaged 355 yds and 36 pts a game.

I still don't see how one comes up with one offense as "stout" and the other as "a pile of shite"

If you want to say that our O looked like "a pile of shite" in the BCSCG, ok...we agree.

Well thank god we have a new QB this year that wasnt on our roster last year......... Oh wait what?