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re: Offensive Line vs Scheme. NE vs KC - perfect explanation why LSU's scheme needs to change

Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:55 pm to
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Why should I take the high road? You certainly haven't.


Care to elaborate? I don’t recall ever stooping to some of the hatred I’ve seen you spew here



My post is self explanatory. You brought up my illness and you are now accusing me of spewing hatred. All the while ignoring that I started none of the bullshite in this thread.

Do you honestly think that you're on the high road?

Somehow in your mind it's ok for posters to come in here taking shots at me but when I respond in kind I'm the bad guy.

If you don't see the problem with that I don't know what to tell you. I don't care if you like me or not but that's bullshite.
Posted by Croozin2
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Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:01 pm to
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All the while ignoring that I started none of the bullshite in this thread.


“But, they started it.” That sounds like the voice of youth. Carry on, you have to live with yourself. The fact that you accuse others of hatred or being miserable is actually a bit humorous. I’ll let you get back to your bitch fest. smdh
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4328 posts
Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:03 pm to
I don't think schematically there needs to be household changes but there are a few (2-3) teams a year that you need to do different things to win and I believe that is what most people would like to see in improving the offense for next year. As I agree with some of this original post, I do believe to become elite, the current players at tackle need to play at a drastically higher level and need to sign elite OT's.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:09 pm to
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All the while ignoring that I started none of the bullshite in this thread.


“But, they started it.” That sounds like the voice of youth. Carry on, you have to live with yourself. The fact that you accuse others of hatred or being miserable is actually a bit humorous. I’ll let you get back to your bitch fest. smdh



I'm going at this with as open a mind as I possibly can. If you can explain to me why I should let people Tee off on me in these threads and not respond I promise to consider it going forward but as of right now you haven't convinced me of anything but your own personal dislike of me driving your posts.


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The fact that you accuse others of hatred or being miserable is actually a bit humorous. I’ll let you get back to your bitch fest. smdh


Here you are making shite up.

I knew that you really had nothing but I gave you a chance to present your case.

You haven't and you didn't.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:10 pm to
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Somehow in your mind it's ok for posters to come in here taking shots at me but when I respond in kind I'm the bad guy


Oh really....

First post by Ben in this thread.

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Stopped reading at SEC Grapevine dumbfrick.


Second post by Ben in this thread.


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More dumb fricking shite from a dumb fricking poster.


Third post by Ben in this thread.

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You are seriously stupid
.

Fourth post by Ben in this thread.

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You see the time and effort your stupid arse puts into posts about me. You obsessed motherfricker. You're as dumb as a bag of shite





Yet, we have heard you argue that others don't add substance, and just make personal attacks. I'll also add that these first few post, made by you, were in a response to someone stating an opinion that you were pushing your agenda. It was not a personal attack....just an opinion, which you don't agree with.

Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:11 pm to
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As I agree with some of this original post, I do believe to become elite, the current players at tackle need to play at a drastically higher level and need to sign elite OT's



I just feel that this is self evident and I can't understand the uproar that it causes. The article Spotwood linked is sobering. I don't have all the answers but I'm as sure as I can be that LSU needs to get better at the tackle position.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:12 pm to
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I knew that you really had nothing but I gave you a chance to present your case


But I did.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:16 pm to
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Yet, we have heard you argue that others don't add substance, and just make personal attacks. I'll also add that these first few post, made by you, were in a response to someone stating an opinion that you were pushing your agenda. It was not a personal attack....just an opinion, which you don't agree with



You are a liar.

The guy posts shite about me constantly. He posts nonsense about me being employed by the football program.

It's constant and well documented so don't come on here and act like that guy is innocent.

You're dishonesty is on display here to anybody that cares.

It shows that you're a piece of shite.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:17 pm to
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I knew that you really had nothing but I gave you a chance to present your case


But I did



I wasn't talking to you but you didn't do any better. You just showed what a fricking Skuzzy piece of shite you are.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:22 pm to
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Rant Myths are started by Dereck & Ben who both are paid to support Coach O and OC, defend the indefensible Offense, etc


This is the first post mentioning you. Notice....no personal attack.

This is your responses.

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Stopped reading at SEC Grapevine dumbfrick.



More dumb fricking shite from a dumb fricking poster.



You are seriously stupid



You see the time and effort your stupid arse puts into posts about me. You obsessed motherfricker. You're as dumb as a bag of shite



So, who attacked who? Who is lieing? Who is the piece of shite here?

I'm providing evidence to support what I'm saying. You are providing nothing, as usual, except personal attacks and name calling.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4328 posts
Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:31 pm to
The comment by T-bob sums it up, "philosophy"and I've said this countless times about O. He's more afraid of the turnover from being aggressive than the potential gain. Until he let's go of that this offense "will not" reach it's potential plain and simple. Of those plays that were shown, one was a horrible playcall,one was a busted assignment by deculus (that he did numerous times this year), Quinnen Williams whipped cushenberry's arse and the Florida play, Charles got his arse whipped (which Burrow would have escaped) had brossette not blown his assignment and blocked inside to out like he should have.
Posted by Chet Donnely
Member since Sep 2015
1587 posts
Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:33 pm to
Are Ben and p&g the same person, are they related, or are they just dating one another? It’s the same shite from both of them all day long
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4328 posts
Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:33 pm to
You said a mouthful, totally agree.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:36 pm to
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Are Ben and p&g the same person, are they related, or are they just dating one another? It’s the same shite from both of them all day long


I don't think they are the same person. They are just both pretty similar, and equally stupid. There is one major difference.

Ben argues and argues every day in threads. He throws out his stupid arguments and gets crushed by facts. Once he gets crushed, he starts name calling.

P&G learned a while back that he would get crushed by making the arguments, so he just goes straight to the name calling now.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:47 pm to
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The comment by T-bob sums it up, "philosophy"and I've said this countless times about O. He's more afraid of the turnover from being aggressive than the potential gain. Until he let's go of that this offense "will not" reach it's potential plain and simple. Of those plays that were shown, one was a horrible playcall,one was a busted assignment by deculus (that he did numerous times this year), Quinnen Williams whipped cushenberry's arse and the Florida play, Charles got his arse whipped (which Burrow would have escaped) had brossette not blown his assignment and blocked inside to out like he should have


Missing blocking assignments late in the season had me questioning leadership big time plus the Sullivan interview was discouraging. I still think another year in the system and experience will be all the difference.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:50 pm to
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Are Ben and p&g the same person, are they related, or are they just dating one another? It’s the same shite from both of them all day long




The poster that you're responding to has had no problem derailing this thread all day long making it about himself and attacking me all day. It comes as no surprise that posters like you have no problem with it.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:52 pm to
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The poster that you're responding to has had no problem derailing this thread all day long making it about himself and attacking me all day. It comes as no surprise that posters like you have no problem with it


Yet your first four post were personal attacks, which had ZERO to do with the topic. So who derailed the thread Ben? By the time I entered this thread, it was so far off the tracks, I had to take a boat to get there.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 1/20/19 at 2:54 pm to
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Rant Myths are started by Dereck & Ben who both are paid to support Coach O and OC



Here is SEC Grapevines second post in this thread. It was before I posted here.

This is not a difference of opinion. This is a straight defamatory attack. The poster has no evidence whatsoever to back up his accusation but that doesn't stop him at all.

This poster has been flinging these accusations for quite some time now.

I responded with verbal attacks of my own.

To say that I was unprovoked is just plain dishonest.


It's funny that I don't roam around this board thread to thread making up scenarios attacking other posters. The posters that are here attacking me are well aware of of the comments by Grapevine. They misrepresent what has been said and outright lie about the circumstances.

I hope now that certain posters have had their dishonesty exposed that this can all be put to rest.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 1/20/19 at 2:55 pm to
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What are you going to do about it? Cry like a little bitch on a message board. Keep crying bitch. Who is having a total meltdown in this thread, for like the 4th time.
it's the funniest shite on this site. I love ben's meltdowns.
Posted by SEC Grapevine
SEC
Member since Sep 2014
502 posts
Posted on 1/20/19 at 3:04 pm to
NFL/FBS: Defense Wins Championships: Fact or Folklore....Folklore

The high scoring 2018 season certainly falls outside of the "defense wins championship" boundaries both in the regular season and in the playoffs. The four teams heading into the AFC and NFC Championship games (Chiefs, Rams, Saints, Patriots) rank 1 through 4 in scoring offense. Only the Patriots rank in the top 10 in defense at No. 4. The Saints are at 14 while the Rams and Chiefs are at 20 and 24.

The mantra this season is more akin to "defense gets you into the playoffs but no farther." Among the teams ousted from the players so far, the Bears ranked first in defense, the Ravens second, Texans fifth, Cowboys sixth, Chargers eighth and Seahawks 11th while none of their offenses cracked the top 10 other than the Chargers (eighth). In the divisional round, in three of the four games, the winner scored more than 30 points, so that maybe the mantra needs to be adjusted to "offense matters a lot in the NFL."

The same is being proven in the FBS: It is better to have an Elite Off vs an Elite D: Saban said 'If given an either or, no doubt I would put my best players on Off and just Score As Many Pts as possible.' That is the way it is going.


All 4 of the Playoff Teams: Offensive Schemes












38-39 yrs old in the pic
Stabler and Joe Namath were the last of the carousin' quarterbacks. Stay out all night, then come in the next day and throw four touchdown passes.
He would come in with little or no sleep and say "It is only a 3 hr game." He died in 2015 at age 70 of colon cancer and CTE. He was devastated to see many of his football friends suffer early deaths from CTE: 110 of 111 brains studied post mortem had CTE.


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