Started By
Message

re: Offensive line still a big part of the problem

Posted on 9/29/10 at 10:20 am to
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 10:20 am to
For someone whose name is Wisdom, you are a fricking moron. They have been exceptional this year, and been giving him all the time in the world. Pressure happens, its impossible to hold your blocks forever. Its a sad fact. QBs can make their line look fantastic (think T. Brady/Brees with the quick release) or horrendous (think people that hold on to the ball waaaaaay too long cough cough Jefferson).
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
12361 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Offensive line still a big part of the problem

Most incorrect statement I've read in a long time. Nice work.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 10:21 am to
quote:

you should do all you can to protect your QB (even if he is not performing).


Agreed. Free hits on the QB are not only not acceptable, it was blasphemy when I played (albeit only high school).
Posted by Wisdom
Member since Jan 2010
114 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 10:25 am to
I'm convinced. Indeed, I was convinced pretty much before I posted in order to get others' thoughts. I don't think it's a great O-line, but it is good enough for our passing game to be a far better component of the offense than it is. And I agree with the assessment of the QB's inability to make quick decisions and execute before the grenade goes off.
But I also believe that, despite the opinions of talking heads and anonymous rantards, the coaching staff (including the head coach) are more than capable college football coaches, and are not acting out of blind loyalty to one player. Thus, I am searching for a rational (repeat, rational) explanation for their course of conduct, and have to believe it lies either in their assessment that the problem isn't with the particular player, or their assessment that the alternative isn't superior.

Oh, and to the guy with the courage and the limited vocabulary who called me a "fricking moron",
This post was edited on 9/29/10 at 10:27 am
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 10:28 am to
So you are at every practice, grading out o-lineman? Why the heck should we think this isn't the best line they could possibly run out? He wants to run the ball, so obviously this is a run oriented line. Do you want to start trotting out better passing options and give away the play? As for the anonymous, you are too. Don't be one of those yokels that calls everyone a rant tard because they don't agree with you.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 10:28 am to
Your welcome.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216037 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 10:30 am to
quote:

They have been exceptional this year,



I wouldn't go taht far. They have improved some, But thats as far as I will go.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 10:30 am to
quote:

I'm convinced. Indeed, I was convinced pretty much before I posted in order to get others' thoughts. I don't think it's a great O-line, but it is good enough for our passing game to be a far better component of the offense than it is. And I agree with the assessment of the QB's inability to make quick decisions and execute before the grenade goes off.
But I also believe that, despite the opinions of talking heads and anonymous rantards, the coaching staff (including the head coach) are more than capable college football coaches, and are not acting out of blind loyalty to one player. Thus, I am searching for a rational (repeat, rational) explanation for their course of conduct, and have to believe it lies either in their assessment that the problem isn't with the particular player, or their assessment that the alternative isn't superior.


That's a lot of words to say your original post sucked.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 10:32 am to
Peej, did you see them last year? They were a joke
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10708 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 10:36 am to
One sack JJ took vs WVU he held the ball 6-seconds before the pocket collapsed. Guess the OL needs to work towards complete protection for a minimum of 12 seconds to ensure 100% grading...
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 10:45 am to
quote:

One sack JJ took vs WVU he held the ball 6-seconds before the pocket collapsed.
Which play was that?
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10708 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 11:07 am to
3rd or 4th Q, rewound the play and counted it off, no it's not an embellishment.
Posted by houstontyga
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
4185 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 11:08 am to


somewhere along the line the guy seems to have lost the fire in his belly.
This post was edited on 9/29/10 at 11:09 am
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216037 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 11:09 am to
quote:

Peej, did you see them last year? They were a joke



Now they are not so much of a joke.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91300 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 11:16 am to
quote:


Now they are not so much of a joke


I think a B grade would be about right.

We are running the ball better this year with a worse passing game, so that goes a long way to prove their improvement.

Also, they are down a starter and have still done well.

As to Barksdale,I give him a pass on the "not on the line of scrimmage" call. I mean it was his fault, but I am sure that is one of those once in a lifetime penalties.

I cannot seem to find any OL statistics on LSUSports.net. Any help?
Posted by AtownTiga
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
22 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 11:16 am to
ridonkulous
Posted by ssgrice
Arizona
Member since Nov 2008
3205 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 11:24 am to
quote:

and he takes way too long to go through his reads, its like slow motion at times

I'm not sure he even goes through his reads.
He seems to check down too quick and doesn't let the play develope.
Posted by aglandry
lafayette
Member since Oct 2008
2574 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 11:27 am to
quote:

I know he doesn't pull the trigger fast enough at times, and seems to be more than a little indecisive, but he never seems to be able to throw without being under significant pressure. Yes, the offensive line is improved over last year, but that isn't a very high standard. Perhaps Miles' reluctance to shift quarterbacks is attributable in part to his, and his staff's, belief that the problem lies less with the QB than with the





I don't think one can blame the O-Line this year. JJ has had enough time to write a letter to his mother and run to the post office to mail it. The O-Line isn't causing him to throw the pass 5yds in front of receivers or 15 yds over their head when they are 12ft from him.I blamed the O-Line last year but I can't honestly do it this year. JJ has not improved his decision making nor his mechanics since last year. His poor performance has to placed at his feet this year.Last year he averaged 180.5 yds passing per game with a poor O-Line.The problem lies with JJ. I can't make any excuses for him this year.JL may end up as our only alternative. Hopefully, he has improved his decision making because that was JL's main problem.
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 11:28 am to
quote:

I wouldn't go taht far. They have improved some, But thats as far as I will go.


I agree with this. This line is better but not a great offensive line by any means. Backs are getting hit in the backfield. They are better at opening holes from time to time but are not blowing people off the ball.
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 11:37 am to
quote:

3rd or 4th Q, rewound the play and counted it off, no it's not an embellishment.
I checked. I didn't see a sack in the second half.

Want to try again?
first pageprev pagePage 3 of 5Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram