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re: odds makers pick LSU to finish 7-5

Posted on 6/15/10 at 1:43 am to
Posted by NW Tiger
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 6/15/10 at 1:43 am to
Miles has brought this on himself, we have the worst QB in college football............
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 7:07 am to
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Miles has brought this on himself, we have the worst QB in college football............


Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
63966 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 7:46 am to
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LSU is an underdog by 5 to #1 Alabama at LSU
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If we're the underdog Nov 1 I will be sick. And if Miles goes 1-4 in those games his arse should be gone
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 6/15/10 at 7:53 am to
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And if Miles goes 1-4 in those games his arse should be gone



This is very possible!!!!!!!
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 10:28 am to
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Well, he's already done that. Let's hope he can do it again, but this time in the right direction.


For all your talk about how everyone defends Miles for the 2008 season, I don't remember many that weren't concerned going into the season after losing our DC and QB. As far as being on his arse about having replacements set up, it's hard to recruit an elite QB who wants to sit behind three future NFL QBs..

As far as the DC goes, I also don't remember many who felt Malleveto was a bad idea at the start of the season... it would keep the existing scheme in place. Hindsight is 20/20 of course and it was a horrible decision in practice, but it looked like a good option at the time. IN either case, there was bound to be a drop-off from a coaching standpoint, not to mention from a talent standpoint. The losses on defense from that 2007 team were huge.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17772 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 10:44 am to
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it's hard to recruit an elite QB who wants to sit behind three future NFL QBs..


Well let's see. Russell left early, Flynn was a senior, and Perrilloux was a sophmore. Does that really make it impossible to sign an elite QB? Miles should have made it a priorty to find an elite QB because he knew Perrilloux had character issues.

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Hindsight is 20/20 of course and it was a horrible decision in practice, but it looked like a good option at the time. IN either case, there was bound to be a drop-off from a coaching standpoint, not to mention from a talent standpoint. The losses on defense from that 2007 team were huge.


2008 was just a big cluster frick (much like 2009 offensively). We lost majority of our defense from 07, and Miles makes the decision to go with 2 coordinators who were clearly not qualified. And to top it off, our freshman QB couldn't stop throwing pick 6s.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 11:00 am to
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dukke v
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I support Miles.


Now that is just a blatant stupid damn lie. You are a liar.
This post was edited on 6/15/10 at 11:05 am
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 11:14 am to
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As far as the DC goes, I also don't remember many who felt Malleveto was a bad idea at the start of the season...


Welcome to Tigerdroppings.com, as you are obviously a new member. Having been around at that time, I remember quite a bit of concern about it.
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Hindsight is 20/20 of course and it was a horrible decision in practice, but it looked like a good option at the time.

No, it looked like a shitty option at the time. Co-coordinators trying to imitate the guy who left is not a good idea at any time. When we lost Pelini, Miles' job was to find a good solid replacement DC. He was too lazy or too incompetent to do that, and we wound up with Malveto. In a year when we knew we had a young QB and absolutely could not afford to frick up the defense, Miles decided to experiment with a stupid co-coordinator idea.
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IN either case, there was bound to be a drop-off from a coaching standpoint, not to mention from a talent standpoint. The losses on defense from that 2007 team were huge.

The dropoff in talent is no excuse. That's what recruiting is for. The dropoff in coaching was not inevitable (unless you're saying Pelini is the best defensive coach in the world), but even if some dropoff was inevitable, any competent head coach could have had less of one by simply hiring an actual DC to replace Pelini.
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it's hard to recruit an elite QB who wants to sit behind three future NFL QBs..

Yes. With a roster full of talent, it's hard to recruit. That's why elite coaches who can do it get paid $4 million a year. Dumbfricks who can't, don't...unless they work for LSU, apparently.
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For all your talk about how everyone defends Miles for the 2008 season, I don't remember many that weren't concerned going into the season after losing our DC and QB.

What does concern in the preseason have to do with defending Miles for the inexcusable collapse he caused?
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 11:20 am to
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gambling man says take the over. but it is so foggy with the unknown at QB.


We have two different QBs who have started most or all of a full season for us. How could they possibly still be "unknown"?
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our D showed that they would be a typical tenn defense (lose to fla, etc. bend, bend and break on occasion)

They broke on almost every occasion in the fourth quarter when we needed stops in close games.

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if we run more consistently, which I believe we will and our D-line plays better we will be better than 7-5

If we score 100 points in each game and don't allow our opponents to score, we'll be undefeated. So the frick what?
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who knows with this bunch.

99% of the country.
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lets let the season play out.

Was anybody talking about canceling the season?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 11:22 am to
Correct me if i'm wrong Nuts (and im not) but weren't you saying that Miles was the best coach in the SEC after the '07 season?...the same time frame you're now bashing him for? ....and you wonder why everyone thinks you're an f'n loon.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 1:06 pm to
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Correct me if i'm wrong Nuts (and im not) but weren't you saying that Miles was the best coach in the SEC after the '07 season?...the same time frame you're now bashing him for? ....and you wonder why everyone thinks you're an f'n loon.


Anybody whose opinion of Les Miles hasn't changed in the last two years is the loon.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216044 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 1:31 pm to
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Anybody whose opinion of Les Miles hasn't changed in the last two years is the loon.



Why do you even bother Nuts!! The only way he will listen is in NOV after LSU does another 8-4 or 7-5. And 4th in thew WEST.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 1:52 pm to
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it's hard to recruit an elite QB who wants to sit behind three future NFL QBs..


You talking about Southern Cal?

Who in 06 thought that we had three future NFL quarterbacks on the roster? Many fans never believed Flynn would make an NFL roster until after he beat out Brohm.

What is the excuse for last recruiting season? We signed only one quarterback and there is a good possibility he will sign to play baseball. Surely Lee and JJ aren't scaring away recruits.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 2:16 pm to
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Anybody whose opinion of Les Miles hasn't changed in the last two years is the loon.


So, in your opinion, he went from the best coach in the SEC to one of the worst coaches in the country....in two years. Theres no middle ground...no gray area...no other reasoning....thats it. Sounds reasonable.
Posted by Tigerdandy
Member since May 2007
726 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 3:49 pm to
Are u the wife beating dopehead u talk of in your sig?

It would make sense if u were because u r a mentally challenged fricker for sure.

Posted by HooDooWitch
TD Bronze member
Member since Sep 2009
11164 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 5:20 pm to
Vegas odds makers don't get paid to loose money, and they are not always going to get it right either. It will be interesting to see how the lines move after the season starts. I figured us at a 8 win regular season at best and if that or worse happens I would be surprised to see LM go another season.

IMO, if talent and game time performance is equal and it comes down to coaching decisions and game management, we are at a disadvantage to the majority of coaches in the SEC.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 5:23 pm to
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So, in your opinion, he went from the best coach in the SEC to one of the worst coaches in the country....in two years. Theres no middle ground...no gray area...no other reasoning....thats it. Sounds reasonable


Why do you continue to reply to that guy? He's so extreme in his views you shouldn't be taking this guy seriously.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216044 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 5:29 pm to
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He's so extreme in his views you shouldn't be taking this guy seriously.


In other words he doesn't suck miles dick???? Sounds like that is what you are saying!!!
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 5:34 pm to
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In other words he doesn't suck miles dick????


No. You don't have sharp reading comprehension skills.

BamaBoyPJ, I'll take a giant shite on you.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10452 posts
Posted on 6/15/10 at 5:56 pm to
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Vegas odds makers don't get paid to loose money,

When you make a bet, you're actually betting against jo blo, who's betting the opposite of you.
Books are kept to keep everything even so the "bookie" can skim the juice. They don't lose money unless they keep bad books.... or gamble themselves.
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