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Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:40 am to LSU Patrick
How am I not?
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:40 am to LNCHBOX
Obviously the d was better than the O, no one is debating that. Most of us expected the d to carry the team. Overall they were good. With 3 AA's though, I'd say they were a little underwhelming at times for sure.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:42 am to Tillmanscorner
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I'd say they were a little underwhelming at times for sure.
Those times almost always coincided with the offense doing nothing for quarters at a time
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:42 am to d2
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Just curious, do you feel the defense was elite objectively?
Yes. LSU's defense was among the best in the nation. 3 all-americans backs up that claim. Is the defense free from blame? Hell no. They could have done things better in the Florida and aTm game. You can't blame the L solely on the defense in either game though.
Just like stats on offense don't tell the whole story, stats on defense are the same. How many yards were given up/points scored later in games as a result of a worn out defense? It is absolute fact that almost every single game LSU jumped out ahead in, the offense went into a shell. That led to plenty of quick possessions, and the defense getting right back on the field.
Of course that did stop the retards from saying, "LSU jumped ahead in the first half and the defense couldn't hold the lead."
That's why you don't see me pointing to stats often, unless idiots start manipulating numbers like you are seeing here.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:46 am to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Can someone start a thread showing just our scoring drives this season? Obviously you'd have to leave out the bama game in that case too lol
I bet those stats would really look like we kicked arse!
I bet those stats would really look like we kicked arse!
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:47 am to LNCHBOX
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Those times almost always coincided with the offense doing nothing for quarters at a time
The end of the A$M game?
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:47 am to Tillmanscorner
And you are basing this on what?
Their ranking
Not that they both are 9-3 and Kentucky thrashed Florida Head to Head? Or that Kentucky has a statistically better defense by a large margin?
Their ranking
Not that they both are 9-3 and Kentucky thrashed Florida Head to Head? Or that Kentucky has a statistically better defense by a large margin?
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:50 am to LNCHBOX
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I'm not sure why you're hung up on elite. Well, i do know why you are.
I'm hung up on the elite part, because Greedy made a comment that he obviously thinks they were an elite defense this year. I have said numerous times that both sides of the ball need improvement. I don't get how people can claim to be objective, yet try to blame every defensive struggle on the offense.
I was not overly impressed with the offense this year and I would love to see us completely open it up, but I would also like to see a defense that everyone fears. 2011 was different, I think that was an offense issue, this year I saw both sides struggle at times.
I think before you make a comment like Greedy made you need to make sure you aren't living in a glass house.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:51 am to Tillmanscorner
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Skewed? I removed the clear #1 from all schedules.
You removed a 0 from LSU and MSU while removing 31 for Arkansas, 23 for Texas AM and 21 from Auburn.
In what world does this make your argument objective? It was done to skew things in LSU's favor.
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 9:53 am
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:52 am to Tillmanscorner
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There is hardly ever real objectivity on here, except by posters with intellec
And of course you are one of these.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:52 am to d2
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I think before you make a comment like Greedy made you need to make sure you aren't living in a glass house.
Greedy was elite.
I think Chaisson would have helped make the defense elite this year. That and another S&C coach.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:53 am to Tillmanscorner
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Yes guy, the lsu offense scored the go ahead td in the fourth quarter. Defense could hold. Fact.
Did the defense score the tying TD or not?
Go look at the stats at all those 3 and outs.
So the defense is down the last game of the season:
Fohoko
Fulton
Should I continue?
5 starters you moron. Lack of depth? Yep. Last game of the season? Yep. Played their nuts off to he point to score the tying TD late in the game? Yep.
Carried this offense all season? Yep
fricking idiots like you using 1 drive with a shite load of questionable calls NEVER SEEN BEFORE ie the fumbled snap and a QB hand on the ball equalls “control”. And the clock not starting on the refs whistle with 3 seconds left that should have ended the game, as a reason to blame the defense.
a-hole
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:54 am to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
LSU took a fourth quarter lead against a&m, with the offense scoring the go ahead td late. LSU won top that game as well.
Manipulating numbers? If you call using all 8 conference games manipulating numbers, I'm guilty as charged.
Manipulating numbers? If you call using all 8 conference games manipulating numbers, I'm guilty as charged.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:56 am to Tillmanscorner
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LSU won top that game as well.
You know the defense plays a part in winning TOP, right?
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:56 am to Tillmanscorner
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Manipulating numbers? If you call using all 8 conference games manipulating numbers, I'm guilty as charged.
Didn’t you remove Bama?
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:56 am to Tillmanscorner
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Manipulating numbers? If you call using all 8 conference games manipulating numbers, I'm guilty as charged.
Your OP didn't even use all 6 West games.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:57 am to Tiger1988
I agree that LSU got hosed that game against a&m.
You sir have some serious issues that go way beyond lsu football. Wow.
You sir have some serious issues that go way beyond lsu football. Wow.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:57 am to Tiger1988
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Did the defense score the tying TD or not?
Who scored the go ahead?
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:58 am to Tillmanscorner
SEC offensive coordinator change from 2017 to 2018 season.
South Carolina 2017 Offense rank 109th
South Carolina 2018 Offense rank 37th
OC: 2018 Bryan McClendon (2017 Kurt Roper - fired)
Missouri 2017 Offense rank 8th
Missouri 2018 Offense rank 19th
OC: Derek Dooley (Josh Heupel - resigned to take UCF HC job)
Florida 2017 Offense rank 110th
Florida 2018 Offense rank 47th
HC: Dan Mullen (Jim McElwain - fired)
OC: Billy Gonzales & John Hevesy (Doug Nussmeier)
Tennessee 2017 Offense rank 125th
Tennessee 2018 Offense rank 122nd
HC: Jeremy Pruitt (Butch Jones - fired)
OC: Tyson Helton (Larry Scott)
Alabama 2017 Offense rank 29th
Alabama 2018 Offense rank 7th
OC: Mike Locksley (Brian Daboll - resigned to move to the NFL)
Mississippi State 2017 Offense rank 47th
Mississippi State 2018 Offense rank 66th
HC: Joe Moorhead (Dan Mullen - resigned to take Florida HC job)
OC: Charles Huff & Andrew Breiner (Billy Gonzales & John Hevesy)
Texas A&M 2017 Offense rank 56th
Texas A&M 2018 Offense rank 20th
HC: Jimbo Fisher (Kevin Sumlin - fired)
OC: Darrell Dickey (Noel Mazzone)
Arkansas 2017 Offense rank 94th
Arkansas 2018 Offense rank 118th
HC: Chad Morris (Bret Bielema - fired)
OC: Joe Craddock (Dan Enos)
LSU 2017 Offense rank 54th
LSU 2018 Offense rank 77th
OC: Steve Ensminger (Matt Canada - school and Canada agreed to mutually part ways)
Just because you are installing a new offense isn't an excuse. All these teams changed to a completely new offense in one year and most seen offensive production increase
South Carolina 2017 Offense rank 109th
South Carolina 2018 Offense rank 37th
OC: 2018 Bryan McClendon (2017 Kurt Roper - fired)
Missouri 2017 Offense rank 8th
Missouri 2018 Offense rank 19th
OC: Derek Dooley (Josh Heupel - resigned to take UCF HC job)
Florida 2017 Offense rank 110th
Florida 2018 Offense rank 47th
HC: Dan Mullen (Jim McElwain - fired)
OC: Billy Gonzales & John Hevesy (Doug Nussmeier)
Tennessee 2017 Offense rank 125th
Tennessee 2018 Offense rank 122nd
HC: Jeremy Pruitt (Butch Jones - fired)
OC: Tyson Helton (Larry Scott)
Alabama 2017 Offense rank 29th
Alabama 2018 Offense rank 7th
OC: Mike Locksley (Brian Daboll - resigned to move to the NFL)
Mississippi State 2017 Offense rank 47th
Mississippi State 2018 Offense rank 66th
HC: Joe Moorhead (Dan Mullen - resigned to take Florida HC job)
OC: Charles Huff & Andrew Breiner (Billy Gonzales & John Hevesy)
Texas A&M 2017 Offense rank 56th
Texas A&M 2018 Offense rank 20th
HC: Jimbo Fisher (Kevin Sumlin - fired)
OC: Darrell Dickey (Noel Mazzone)
Arkansas 2017 Offense rank 94th
Arkansas 2018 Offense rank 118th
HC: Chad Morris (Bret Bielema - fired)
OC: Joe Craddock (Dan Enos)
LSU 2017 Offense rank 54th
LSU 2018 Offense rank 77th
OC: Steve Ensminger (Matt Canada - school and Canada agreed to mutually part ways)
Just because you are installing a new offense isn't an excuse. All these teams changed to a completely new offense in one year and most seen offensive production increase
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