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re: Objective Ranking of LSU Offense in SECW

Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:22 am to
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:22 am to
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Did you take in consideration all defensive, punt return, kickoff return touchdowns scored? How about turnovers and red zone offense? I mean a good defense can setup an offense in great field position and offense not get a first down but kick a field goal and get credit for 3 points.

Ex. LSU offense only scored 24 points not 31 before overtime against TAMU



No but he didn't do it for the other teams either.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:23 am to
Objectivity we were 10th in the SEC in yards and 8th in points. You've skewed the stats to paint a pretty picture.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:24 am to
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Now I've read your posts on here for a while now.


Obviously alter is obvious
Posted by Tillmanscorner
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:26 am to
Lol...if I removed punt returns and kickoffs, I assure you that would help lsu, not hurt them. But I love people like you, that assume lsu is the only team that plays defense, and sets up the offense or scores a defensive td. Newsflash for you, despite 3 AA's on the defense, the D was not elite. Why does it piss people like you off when something positive is posted?
Posted by Tillmanscorner
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:29 am to
I simply used only sec games, minus Bama, per the argument in another thread that many stated lsu was garbage even outside the Bama game. Maybe they were, but all of the rest of the secw was even more garbage.
Posted by Finch
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:30 am to
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Why does it piss people like you off when made up stats are posted?


FIFY
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:31 am to
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You have no idea what objectivity means in terms of statistics.

This isn’t it

When you cherry pick the most favorable scenario and alter every other sample set accordingly, it is still cherry picking



He applied the rules evenly to every team. It's his scenario and he's free to do it as he sees fit. You are free to cry about it as you see fit but he didn't cherry pick a damn thing. He dropped the bama game. If he was trying to skew the numbers he could've left the overtime scores there.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:32 am to
Remove the most important game vs the best competition we play every year. Cool. This is some sad shite.
Posted by Tillmanscorner
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:32 am to
I don't know where lsu would rank in the sec on defensive TDS scored...I wouldn't think at the top...I remember 2? But, I do know where they would rank on TDS by the punt and kickoff return teams. Lol
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:34 am to
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But, I do know where they would rank on TDS by the punt and kickoff return teams. Lol


Dead last.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:36 am to
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, but all of the rest of the secw was even more garbage.


Is anyone arguing this?

Ole Miss and Arkansas are clearly hot garbage. MSU, Auburn, and TAMU are average to above average at best. LSU is above average. There's only one elite team in the SEC West right now. The last two years the SEC West, and the SEC as a whole, has been propped up by past results.
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 7:42 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:38 am to
You simply cherrypicked. You chose stats that made LSU look better to polish the turd that was our offense this year. Call it whatever you want, but it isn't objective. The stats I posted, that count everything, are objective.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:38 am to
This is the most obvious alter ever seen on this board.

15 post, all in one thread (created by him). Claiming chicken has an army. I had no earthly idea who chicken was when I had 15 post.

If you think your argument is so great, why did you create an alter to post it? Didn't want us to know who you really are?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:39 am to
Wouldn't shock me if it's bencolman just agreeing with himself
Posted by Tillmanscorner
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:40 am to
Plus I included the SECE teams that each team played. No one had a togher sece draw than lsu.

Funny thing is this list wasn't meant to say lsu had a good offense. It was to show that it wasn't as garbage as people think compared to everyone else other than Bama. The Bama game was garbage...yes...but that was a total domination of our OL by 92, and others. LSU has room for improvement, and should have a damn good offense next year regardless who the OC is. I'll support whoever that may be.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:41 am to
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Wouldn't shock me if it's bencolman just agreeing with himself


That wouldn't be surprising. This is either the alter of one of the village idiots (Ree, Ben, P&G), or a person wanting to join the club.
Posted by Tillmanscorner
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:48 am to
All I did was post numbers that reflected the lsu offense in a different light. I didn't support nor condone E as the OC. I'm good with whatever direction we go with our offensive coaching. I simply pointed out that LSU wasn't as bad as people make them out offensively outside of 1 conference game. If you want to call it cherry picking, do be it, but the data included 7 other sec games, with lsu having the toughest sec schedule. I'm sorry that this upsets you and doesn't fit your obvious agenda.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:48 am to
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Plus I included the SECE teams that each team played


Here's the funny thing about stats. They always tell a story, but you can almost always get them to tell that story exactly how you want it to be told. What you posted is interesting, but I could go create some stat that would show LSU being the worst in the west if I wanted. Just have to plug in the right combination of things.

If you watched these games all season, with your eyes, you could tell there were issues with the offense. Outside of Georgia, the offense struggled.

The Arkansas game was terrible. Offense looked bad against LA Tech. If it wasn't for a hail mary before half against Southeastern the score is 10-3 at half. Those are 3 absolute trash defenses.

So, pull whatever numbers you wish. My eye balls told me LSU's offense was not good. And there are more statistics to back my opinion than yours.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:49 am to
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All I did was cherrypick
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:50 am to
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I'm sorry that this upsets you and doesn't fit your obvious agenda


Further proves you are an alter. You have 15 post, yet you know I have an obvious agenda?

I hadn't said a single thing about the offense, my thoughts on the coaches, or anything, when you made this post. How do you know what my agenda is?
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