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O vs Payton Regarding O-line

Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:57 pm
Posted by questionable
FL
Member since Apr 2008
1018 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:57 pm
Sean Payton was asked today about the success of the Saints O-line this year. His response, “they are smart, they are tough, they understand what you’re doing...does the SCHEME fit the strengths of those guys?”

But O told me scheme doesn’t matter and it’s all about having the biggest and best? I’m confused. Payton must be wrong.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25019 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:00 pm to
Well, Payton has clearly fixed what was the Saints' biggest liability. Maybe O needs to go spend a few weeks in Nola with Payton during the recruiting dead period.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:00 pm to
O didn't tell your dumb arse anything.
Posted by TigerRagAndrew
Check my style out
Member since Aug 2004
7217 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:02 pm to
It’s beyond time to get rid of the
zone blocking scheme at LSU.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 9:02 pm
Posted by BlueTiger54
Member since Aug 2016
124 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:03 pm to
There isn’t a coach in college football that understands schemes or sets up schemes for his players like Payton. Including Saban, who is the best CFB coach over, but Payton is on such a different level when it comes to schemes that fit his personnel.

Payton biggest issue was his ego, think8ng he could evaluate talent. As soon as he let that go, you see what has happen
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:05 pm to
There's really no comparing NFL to college. First of all, there is much less of a talent gap between players in the NFL. I mean, they're all really, really talented. So you're not likely to consistently have success by relying on talent alone. Secondly, NFL is a job. The players practice much more than college, they study more film, the coaches can work more with the players, basically they get more, and better coaching.

Having said all that, I have no idea where you heard Orgeron say blocking schemes don't matter. I seriously doubt he's ever said this.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25019 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:07 pm to
I mean, I'm not expecting O to be Payton, but obviously he could learn a thing or two about how to scheme with his personnel from Payton.
Posted by Amish threesome
Olive Branch
Member since Oct 2013
976 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:13 pm to
I think college is way different than Pro. With PRO’s who is your QB’ is the QB right hand or left handed. Is he tall or short it’s he a mobile QB or pocket passer? Do you run an RPO, west coast, run heavy, or spread offense. You can go out and pay for the O lineman you need but with college it’s way different. a coach comes in almost every three to 4 yrs. what kind of offense does the old coach vs new coach run? Let look at LSU. Les miles ran a run heavy I formation offense so he basically recruited guards as tackles, where CEO wants a PRO spread, lets be honest I’m not sure what O wants. So LSU can’t just go out and buy offensive tackles that are good at pass protection (you can with a bagman). Most school have started recruiting a guy since freshman year where LSU is a little late for the party. I’m down for giving O one more yr. because now it will be his players, after three yrs it the new coaches team.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37148 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:14 pm to
quote:

Well, Payton has clearly fixed what was the Saints' biggest liability.
The defense? Dennis Allen still questionable IMO.
quote:

Maybe O needs to go spend a few weeks in Nola with Payton during the recruiting dead period.
I've never understood from Miles to O. 70 Miles down the road, don't go pick brains for a day, ask for help and try to learn. NFL is harder to scheme too.
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