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re: O deserves a lot more credit than most here give him.

Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:37 pm to
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And youre so fricking stupid that you still cant grasp that you picked 9 games.


Hang in there little guy, it will hit you soon. Once you stop throwing your tantrum you'll see it clearly
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:38 pm to
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Miles should have been fired before he was. Someone saying Orgeron hasn't accomplished anything more than Miles, is not the same thing as saying Miles should still be coaching at LSU. Why is that so hard for you to understand?





Brother he has done so many mental gymnastics to defend O that Simone Biles cant hang with him.

In Rodger's mind 2017 troy was more talented than lsu.
In Rodger's mind Tommy Moffit was at the core of why pur offensive production was shite in 2018 but yet he is predicting we break lsu offensive records in 2019 while TM is still at lsu.
If you let him post enough he will absolutely and without fail, shite on his own stance.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:39 pm to
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When Dabo was hired at Clemson he had no past head coaching history = neutral hire.




So, there weren't resumes or even experienced coordinators that would have been "better hires?"
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:40 pm to
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Hang in there little guy, it will hit you soon. Once you stop throwing your tantrum you'll see it clearly

There is no tantrum. I merely pointing out that you choosing 9 games is subjective. Its a made up stretch of games over 2 years. Why not 10 games Rodger? That number not sound so damning?


Its 100% a subjective number of games YOU chose.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 1:44 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:40 pm to
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But he has to actually do it, in real life.


Right?

Clemson fans thought he was a terrible hire and he was damn near fired after season two

Strange how 7-10 years can change that, eh?
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:41 pm to
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So, there weren't resumes or even experienced coordinators that would have been "better hires?"


I don't see what this has to do with a damn thing.

Could Clemson have hired a more proven coach? Absolutely.

Did Dabo turn out to be a perfect hire? Absolutely.

Can Orgeron turn out to be a perfect hire for LSU, despite his previous coaching stops? Absolutely.

It hasn't happened yet though, so why do you demand everybody treat him like it has?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:43 pm to
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Are we doing the pretending people didn't think Miles should have been fired thing again?


In 2015? Nah

In 2016? Absolutely should have been fired. Probably after Wisconsin.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:43 pm to
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and by hiring a young, inventive mind like Joe Brady, we may just be witnessing an era where LSU actually sets the standard for passing across college football



Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:44 pm to
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n 2015? Nah





Wow.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:44 pm to
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Could Clemson have hired a more proven coach? Absolutely.


Hey man, you're disagreeing with "your own" rantards there... on paper he was a terrible hire!!
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:46 pm to
You’re comparing a coach who’s won national titles and beat bama multiple times to someone who was fired from Ole Miss.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:46 pm to
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Hey man, you're disagreeing with "your own" rantards there


That's all you have to respond with? I am capable of having my own opinion, and I can argue that opinion without having to twist, turn, and cherry pick numbers and facts to fit into what I think.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:47 pm to
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So, there weren't resumes or even experienced coordinators that would have been "better hires?"



Sure, but that doesn't make him a bad hire.

Do you believe that there are criteria that can make someone an absolutely bad hire, or do you think that no hire can be judged until years down the line?
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 1:48 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297070 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:49 pm to
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You’re comparing a coach who’s won national titles and beat bama multiple times to someone who was fired from Ole Miss.



I'm not comparing anyone, I'm comparing situations.

The rantards say Orgeron was a bad hire, regardless of how well he ends up doing at LSU.

I say it's impossible to know at this point. We will know for sure by this time next year.

Year three is generally considered the year to put up or shut up
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:50 pm to
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The rantards say Orgeron was a bad hire, regardless of how well he ends up doing at LSU.



You're using the words of maybe one or two people and applying them to a group. Not surprising that you're using that tactic.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24752 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:50 pm to
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The rantards say Orgeron was a bad hire, regardless of how well he ends up doing at LSU


Who said this? Please link me to someone saying that no matter what Orgeron accomplishes in the next few years, he will still be considered a bad hire.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:50 pm to
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Sure, but that doesn't make him a bad hire.


Results make one a good or bad hire, which is usually measured a few years down the road
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48018 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:50 pm to
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That's all you have to respond with? I am capable of having my own opinion, and I can argue that opinion without having to twist, turn, and cherry pick numbers and facts to fit into what I think.


Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46273 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:51 pm to
No you’re using that specific scenario simply because Dabo has won. Why not any other example of questionable hires that actually turned out bad? You’re using that bc you’re an O guy. Plain and simple.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297070 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:51 pm to
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You're using the words of maybe one or two people and applying them to a group


You've said it yourself
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