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re: O deserves a lot more credit than most here give him.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:52 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:52 pm to Rickdaddy4188
People should be buying this LSU team. Even without joe Brady the offense would be poised for a very successful 2019. Joe Brady is the real deal. Worked under 2 spectacular offensive minds: Moorhead and Payton. If I was a betting man I’d but down a few dollars on this team going to the playoffs. This will be the best defense since 2011 with a 2013 offense to match. It’s going to be a special year.
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:53 pm to H-Town Tiger
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at the time and for most of us O was not close to the best hire we could have made.
Hires, like recruiting classes, are judged years down the road.
What criteria was used to hire Orgeron since you were apparently in the room at the time?
Was Dabo a good hire?
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Answer the question without moving the goalposts ?
From 2014-fired, Miles record was 19-10, correct?
Over his last 9 games, he was 4-5, correct?
That in no way is moving any goalposts.
If you lost the last 3 games in 2015 and the first 3 in 2016 youre fired regardless if you had 2 10-3 seasons. Thats the dumbass logic your using Rodger and i just made you see the light.
Thats logic is dumb as shite and a subjective period oc time used to justify you worshipping 4 and 3 loss seasons.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:54 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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So you chose 2 different seasons
Consecutive games
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:54 pm to I-59 Tiger
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hope if Goldrush 25, Rickdaddy or Lunchbox are ever on a milk carton, billboard or are missing that their families get in contact with Chicken and have someone make a positive post about Orgeron.The search would be over in 45 seconds.
I didn't want to.....but this made LOL.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Was Dabo a good hire?
Clemson had zero top 20 finished this century when dabo was hired.
They hadnt won a conference title in over 2 decades.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Hires, like recruiting classes, are judged years down the road.
Are you saying that people shouldn't use known facts at the time to determine if a hire is a good one or not?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Was Dabo a good hire?
Dabo had no documented history as a head coach. No history is better than O's dreadful and embarrassing history at Ole Miss. Dabo also won a conference title in his third full year as head coach and won his division three times in his first four years.
What about Dabo is similar to O?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:57 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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subjective period oc time used to justify you worshipping 4 and 3 loss seasons.
You have no clue what that word means.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
So we fire a coach with back to back 10 win seasons if he loses the last 3 and the 1st 3?
So 10 win seasons aren't acceptable.
Thanks Rodger
So 10 win seasons aren't acceptable.
Thanks Rodger
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Hires, like recruiting classes, are judged years down the road.
How many years?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:58 pm to Damone
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Dabo had no documented history as a head coach.
So, Clemson could have hired a better coach than a position coach at the time, right?
So Dabo was a "bad hire". Right?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:58 pm to Goldrush25
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Are you saying that people shouldn't use known facts at the time to determine if a hire is a good one or not?
Anyone that cried about his record at Ole Miss are complete idiots...how anyone can compare the LSU job to the Ole Miss job is crazy
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You have no clue what that word means.
Please explain why you picked 9 games rodger?
That wasn't subjective?
The fact that you think picking just 9 games isnt subjective isnt shocking.
Why not 5 lost in 13 games?
And only 1 of us has a vast history of posting words he doesnt know the definition of.
Tell us again how uninitiated means unprovoked.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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So, Clemson could have hired a better coach than a position coach at the time, right?
At the time? Who knows, Clemson was not nearly as highly thought of as a program at the time Dabo was hired. He turned them into a powerhouse.
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So Dabo was a "bad hire". Right?
I simply used your logic that you can't just judge a coaching hire at the time it was made, hence why I mentioned his early success in the ACC. He steadily improved his program, winning the division and the conference and ultimately a national championship.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:03 pm to Topwater Trout
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Anyone that cried about his record at Ole Miss are complete idiots.
He did take over a program with no losing seasons in a good while and proceeded to have the worst tenure in ole miss history and did you see his 1st year at lsu? Lost to a midmajor with the 2nd most nfl draft picks
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:03 pm to Topwater Trout
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Anyone that cried about his record at Ole Miss are complete idiots...how anyone can compare the LSU job to the Ole Miss job is crazy
Because there are other known facts (numerous questionable decisions that he made) that suggest that he had a lot to do with how poorly his football team performed at OM.
Why should those decisions that he made be ignored? Some of those decisions he's since repeated at LSU.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:03 pm to TigerinKorea
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This is his "put up or shut up" year.
100%. A successful season means either a spot in the SECCG or a spot in the playoff. Anything less is a failure.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:04 pm to Damone
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At the time? Who knows,
Ahh... so "bad hire" is dependent on results, not just resume
My point exactly
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:06 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Please explain why you picked 9 games rodger?
His last 9 games
You know, one of the main reasons he was fired
It's not subjective, it starts at the downturn until the end when he was fired.
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