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Now that A&M will be in the SEC

Posted on 12/28/11 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/28/11 at 12:46 pm
can we get rid of the "Boot" and having Arky fans think we are their rival? We should be playing A&M the last week of the season.
Posted by kappadelttau
Member since Sep 2011
339 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 12:48 pm to
I like the boot
Posted by BourbonTiger
Member since Nov 2011
206 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 12:48 pm to
Agree and hopefully this takes place beginning with the '13 season.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 12/28/11 at 12:48 pm to
i like the boot
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28348 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 12:50 pm to
Arkansas will continue to be better than A&M for the near future. Until A&M has game, Arky is the rival.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29870 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

Arkansas will continue to be better than A&M for the near future. Until A&M has game, Arky is the rival.


A&M historically is much more of a rival then Arky is.
Posted by Mikebandit
Haters Be Like.....
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/28/11 at 12:58 pm to
i wish we could see bama more of a rival to us seeing in recent history its been much more of a heated discussion
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29870 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 1:19 pm to
Bama has Auburn though. I consider, Bama, Auburn, and Florida more of a rival game then Arky
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2151 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 1:21 pm to
Can't be done as long as A&M and Missouri are permenant cross-divisional opponents. If A&M and LSU were to play that weekend, Arkansas and Missouri, more often than not would have no one to play, since they are not yearly opponents. Would create too big of a scheduling headache.

Only way it happens is if the league goes to 16 (and Missouri moves west) or Arkansas and Missouri become cross-divisional opponents.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29870 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 1:52 pm to
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Can't be done as long as A&M and Missouri are permenant cross-divisional opponents.

quote:


or Arkansas and Missouri become cross-divisional opponents.


Seems like the most reasonable thing to do anyway. Arky is the only team close to Mizzou. I don't see why they can't be in different divisions and still play the last game of the year as a rivalry game? I mean South Carolina and Clemson aren't even in the same conference and they play that game.
This post was edited on 12/28/11 at 1:55 pm
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2151 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 3:18 pm to
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Seems like the most reasonable thing to do anyway. Arky is the only team close to Mizzou. I don't see why they can't be in different divisions and still play the last game of the year as a rivalry game? I mean South Carolina and Clemson aren't even in the same conference and they play that game.
Geographically, that makes sense, but Missouri doesn't want to lose their presence in Texas, and were therefore desparate to have A&M as their cross-over rival. Frankly, as an A&M fan, I would rather have someone else (or no cross-over, but that's another debate), but pairing up A&M and Missouri causes the least disruption for the rest of the league.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13610 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 3:24 pm to
move aTm/LSU to thanksgiving(+1/+2)

let arky have their border war with mizzou the same weekend.
Posted by NameWithheld
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
2092 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 3:30 pm to
I agree if they will give us more than a couple thousand visitor seats!

Seriously, I know it had been offered up on here that they don't give as many visitor tickets as the SEC supposedly dictates. Does anyone have any new info/confirmation on this???
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
10896 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 3:32 pm to
Boot is cool. Save the boot
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

Prefer playing A&M the last week of the season as our rival.


Dump the Boot
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2151 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

I agree if they will give us more than a couple thousand visitor seats!

Seriously, I know it had been offered up on here that they don't give as many visitor tickets as the SEC supposedly dictates. Does anyone have any new info/confirmation on this???
The visitors allotment in the Big XII was 3850, so it won't be less than that. A&M can probably scrounge up another 1500 or so, but going beyond that will be tough (at least until the stadium is epxanded). A&M sold out all available season tickets last year.
Posted by Tigahs
Member since Jan 2004
22836 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 4:13 pm to
rivals are not predetermined, they are developed, nurtured, and enhanced with intense competition, close games, controversial calls, when both teams are playing with something to lose (whether it be in-state bragging rights, divisional champs, conference champs, etc.), and are built up over generations, not decades.

LSU has no true rival and probably never will. Auburn during the 2000s (with a few notable games from the late 80s-90s),

but at most Auburn is more of a quasi-rivalry, it'll always have Bama to hate more.

Going forward as Auburn likely going by the wayside (I think Gene Chizick will crash and burn) combined with the reemergence of Bama as a national perennial power, Bama will replace Auburn's spot as our intermittent quasi-rivalry. But again, it will always hate Auburn more.

That said, with the institutional capacity (facilities, public support, revenue etc.) and monopolized wealth of natural resources (in-state talent), all we need is organizational leadership to ensure we remain a national power for as long as college football exists in its present form -- no other college is as nicely situated to continue wining than LSU (save Florida & Texas, both of which seem to lack organizational leadership, esp. Texas with Mack Brown at the helm, we'll see about Florida next year).

Thus, while although we will never have a true rival, over the next 20 years Bama, Auburn, Arky, etc. will all hate us more than they hate each other.

This post was edited on 12/28/11 at 4:18 pm
Posted by Uncommon Cents
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
14381 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 4:22 pm to
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kappadelttau

quote:

I like the boot


May the Good Lord have mercy on you.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

rivals are not predetermined, they are developed, nurtured, and enhanced with intense competition, close games, controversial calls, when both teams are playing with something to lose (whether it be in-state bragging rights, divisional champs, conference champs, etc.), and are built up over generations, not decades.


that's right. the old LSU/TULANE thing was as close to a "rival" as we'll probably ever have. i have no idea why this issue is so important to some. arkansas hates us like a rival; ditto with ole miss. but, since LSU fans don't hate them enough they are not rivals. same situation with us and bama; they simply don't hate us enough. i, for one, don't give a shite about the so called rivalry thing. my football hate is very strong against alabama, auburn, ole miss, florida and texas a&m. all of these hates go back to the 60's.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36093 posts
Posted on 12/28/11 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

LSU has no true rival and probably never will.


Depends on your definition of rival. Tennessee and Vanderbilt are rivals, even though Vandie has rarely been a threat to the Vols.

LSU's lack of a rival (since the demise of Tulane football) is mostly due to everyone else already having a dance partner. The Tigers are runner-up rivals to many, main rival to none.

That could change if Ole Miss went the way of Tulane, leaving Mississippi State in need of a husband. Arkansas and aTm just seemed forced. Mississippi is much more of a sister state to Louisiana.
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