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re: Now 5 starters are out for LSU
Posted on 9/6/10 at 2:34 pm to Bonjourno
Posted on 9/6/10 at 2:34 pm to Bonjourno
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Since he redshirted voluntarily the first time he's not the ideal candidate
Yea, I just read a site that says its not as automatic as I would have thought. Honestly, I just figured they would extend elgibility as a matter of fact. That has to be a major blow to be a fifth year senior and suffer a possible season ending injury on the first play.
Posted on 9/6/10 at 2:38 pm to Jay Quest
Everyone needs to take a CHILL PILL about Will Blackwell's injury. ALL you need to do is go back over the past 15 - 20 years of LSU Football and look at the people who have already taken a Redshirt Year....Then sometime following that year had a medical injury that caused them to miss the rest of theyear as long as they were used in less than 20% of the season. 100% of those players received a Medical Redshirt !! Which means he will receive a Medical Redshirt season !! IF it had been like 50% YES and 50% NO, then we could say he might or might not, BUT that is not the case !! SO yall need to just **BLANK** CHILL OUT !!
Posted on 9/6/10 at 2:42 pm to NLRTiger
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SO yall need to just **BLANK** CHILL OUT !!

Posted on 9/6/10 at 2:47 pm to Jay Quest
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Yea, I just read a site that says its not as automatic as I would have thought. Honestly, I just figured they would extend elgibility as a matter of fact. That has to be a major blow to be a fifth year senior and suffer a possible season ending injury on the first play.
Here is the rule:
14.2.1.5 Five-Year Rule Waiver. The Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement, or its designated committee, by a two-thirds majority of its members present and voting, may approve waivers of the five-year rule as it deems appropriate. (Revised: 7/30/10)
14.2.1.5.1 Waiver Criteria. A waiver of the five-year period of eligibility is designed to provide a studentathlete with the opportunity to participate in four seasons of intercollegiate competition within a five-year period. <b>This waiver may be granted</b>, based upon objective evidence,<b> for reasons that are beyond the control of the student-athlete or the institution, which deprive the student-athlete of the opportunity to participate for more than one season </b>in his/her sport within the five-year period. The Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement reserves the right to review requests that do not meet the more-than-one-year criteria detailed in this bylaw for circumstances of extraordinary or extreme hardship. A student-athlete who has exhausted his or her five years of eligibility may continue to practice (but not compete) for a maximum of 30 consecutive calendar days, provided the student-athlete’s institution has submitted a waiver request. The student-athlete may not commence practice until the institution has filed such a request. Further, if such a request is denied prior to exhausting the 30-day practice period, the student-athlete must cease all practice activities upon the institution’s notification of the denial. (Revised: 4/17/91, 1/11/94, 8/10/94, 10/12/95, 4/27/00, 7/30/10)
14.2.1.5.1.1 Circumstances Beyond Control. Circumstances considered to be beyond the control of the student-athlete or the institution and do not cause a participation opportunity to be used shall include, but are not limited to, the following: (Adopted: 8/10/94, Revised: 10/12/95, 7/30/10)
(a) Situations clearly supported by contemporaneous medical documentation, which states that a student-athlete is unable to participate in intercollegiate competition as a result of incapacitating physical or mental circumstances;
(b) The student-athlete is unable to participate in intercollegiate athletics as a result of a life-threatening or incapacitating injury or illness suffered by a member of the student-athlete’s immediate family, which clearly is supported by contemporaneous medical documentation; (Revised: 1/9/06)
(c) Reliance by the student-athlete upon written, contemporaneous, clearly erroneous academic advice provided to the student-athlete from a specific academic authority from a collegiate institution regarding the academic status of the student-athlete or prospective student-athlete, which directly leads to that individual not being eligible to participate and, but for the clearly erroneous advice, the student-athlete would have established eligibility for intercollegiate competition; (Revised: 10/9/96)
(d) Natural disasters (e.g., earthquake, flood); and
(e) Extreme financial difficulties as a result of a specific event (e.g., layoff, death in the family) experienced by the student-athlete or by an individual upon whom the student-athlete is legally dependent, which prohibit the student-athlete from participating in intercollegiate athletics. These circumstances must be clearly supported by objective documentation (e.g., decree of bankruptcy, proof of termination)
and must be beyond the control of the student-athlete or the individual upon whom the
student-athlete is legally dependent. (Adopted: 10/12/95, Revised: 8/12/97)
14.2.1.5.1.2 <b>Circumstances Within Control. Circumstances that are considered to be within the control of the student-athlete or the institution and cause a participation opportunity to be used include, but are not limited to, the following: (Adopted: 8/10/94, Revised: 10/12/95, 7/30/10)</b>
(a) A student-athlete’s decision to attend an institution that does not sponsor his/her sport, or decides not to participate at an institution that does sponsor his/her sport;
(b) An inability to participate due to failure to meet institutional/conference or NCAA academic requirements, or disciplinary reasons or incarceration culminating in or resulting from a conviction; (Revised: 10/12/95)
(c) Reliance by a student-athlete upon misinformation from a coaching staff member;
(d) <b>Redshirt year</b>;
(e) An inability to participate as a result of a transfer year in residence or fulfilling a condition for restoration of eligibility; and
(f) A student-athlete’s lack of understanding regarding the specific starting date of his or her five-year period of eligibility. (Adopted: 10/9/96)
Posted on 9/6/10 at 2:48 pm to NLRTiger
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Everyone needs to take a CHILL PILL about Will Blackwell's injury. ALL you need to do is go back over the past 15 - 20 years of LSU Football and look at the people who have already taken a Redshirt Year....Then sometime following that year had a medical injury that caused them to miss the rest of theyear as long as they were used in less than 20% of the season. 100% of those players received a Medical Redshirt !! Which means he will receive a Medical Redshirt season !! IF it had been like 50% YES and 50% NO, then we could say he might or might not, BUT that is not the case !! SO yall need to just **BLANK** CHILL OUT !!
Name the players who received a 6th year, who weren't injured for 2 years.
Posted on 9/6/10 at 2:52 pm to XbengalTiger
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We sure did seem to use a TE flexed out as the 4th WR in most of our 4 WR sets. I thought this was due to us not having a 4th WR ready to play after the Tolliver injury.
naw. joseph was playing the peterson role
out TE splits out wide all the time
Posted on 9/6/10 at 2:52 pm to Bonjourno
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You want to put money on it pal. He can't take two redshirts whether its a med RS or not.
when you get your 6th year, it's considered a medical RS. i don't know what you're babbling about
Posted on 9/6/10 at 2:53 pm to Indiana Tiger
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Here is the rule:
Thanks for the posting.
Posted on 9/6/10 at 2:53 pm to XbengalTiger
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The point is...in the first half we used a flexed out TE in our 4 WR sets
peterson role, brah
Posted on 9/6/10 at 2:54 pm to CP3LSU25
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Plus Tolliver is the fastest receiver on the team.
shep
Posted on 9/6/10 at 2:57 pm to CP3LSU25
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Plus Tolliver is the fastest receiver on the team
No he's not

Posted on 9/6/10 at 3:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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when you get your 6th year, its considered a medical redshirt
No its not. A medical redshirt is when a guy played some in the beginning of a season then gets injured ie loston last year. If they extend his eligibility they will say the ncaa extended his eligibility secondary to whatever not we went back and gave blackwell a med rs for his rs jr year
Posted on 9/6/10 at 3:56 pm to CP3LSU25
I realize Deangelo Peterson did not play yesterday at all, but I had no idea that he was injured. What is wrong with him?
Posted on 9/6/10 at 4:16 pm to CP3LSU25
To clear some things up:
Peterson - starter
Blackwell- will get a medical redshirt if he applies after next season
Hatcher - nickel starter
Toliver- 4 WR and in 4 WR sets a starter
LB- starter
FB - starter kicked off team.
That's 6 actual and situational starters out. We are hurting.
Peterson - starter
Blackwell- will get a medical redshirt if he applies after next season
Hatcher - nickel starter
Toliver- 4 WR and in 4 WR sets a starter
LB- starter
FB - starter kicked off team.
That's 6 actual and situational starters out. We are hurting.
Posted on 9/6/10 at 6:04 pm to 7 Moves
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blackwell - will get a medical redshirt after next season if he applies for one
How many times do we have to go over this in here.
1. Its not a med redshirt, its a waiver of the 5 year rule
2. Not necessarily, its mostly used for players who miss more than one season due to something out of their control
Posted on 9/6/10 at 6:05 pm to CP3LSU25
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Will Blackwell-tough loss
Ryan Baker-will be back when we need him
Chris Tolliver-not a starter
Karnall Hatcher-not a starter
DeAngelo Peterson-will be back when we need him
Posted on 9/6/10 at 6:07 pm to Lsupimp
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blackwell will get a redshirt as well if he wants it.
Already redshirted as a freshman. 6th years are not automatic.
Posted on 9/6/10 at 6:20 pm to 7 Moves
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blackwell - will get a medical redshirt after next season if he applies for one
How many times do we have to go over this in here.
1. Its not a med redshirt, its a waiver of the 5 year rule
2. Not necessarily, its mostly used for players who miss more than one season due to something out of their control
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