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re: NFL Draft - Jordan Jefferson
Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:43 pm to moneybadger
Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:43 pm to moneybadger
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Jesus Christ.
To quote you in another thread:
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A very substantive response, sir.
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:43 pm to JWill409
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Tebow's running ability is in another universe. Stop comparing JJ to Tebow.
Oh so he must run a 4.3?
Tim Tebow: 23 rushing TDs in a single season.
Jordan Jefferson: 12 rushing TDs in four seasons
Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:44 pm to Ryno_Kill
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bullshite, that's exactly what this thread is about
Not really, I think most people in here are agruing that JJ has a realistic shot to be a late round pick, ranked somewhere within the last 8 or so QBs on your list.
There's been people in here saying JJ has no chance at getting drafted and others are saying he has the physical tools to possibly make it.
No one is claiming he is one of the best QBs in this draft class. And honestly one of the things that will hurt him the most in the draft is how deep it is at QB.
Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:44 pm to moneybadger
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Tim Tebow: 23 rushing TDs in a single season.
Jordan Jefferson: 12 rushing TDs in four seasons
They are playing in totally different offenses, why do you keep bringing up college stats? No one is comparing their stats.
Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:45 pm to DBG
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yea, and tebow isnt a good NFL QB, whats your point?
youre not implying that the broncos are winning due to tebow and his passing threat, are you?
Hell no. I'm just saying someone took the chance on him. same with JJ
Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:46 pm to Adam Banks
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So your saying that you want JJ to throw it to friggin James Wright while hes being jammed at the line by Dre Kirkpatrick in the "game of the century" in one of the few times we got to the redzone?
No...I want him to have one option and stare him down despite what the defense dictates.
Secondly, it was press coverage on #82 and he missed the jam at the line due to the outside release. #82 then fights to the inside...that is when he should have received the ball.
#29 blitzing lets you know where to throw the ball...PERIOD. Of course unless you thing George Jefferson was a president.
How come nobody mentions on that play he was throwing of his back foot?
Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:46 pm to JWill409
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moneybadger
You just sound like a fricking hater dude honestly. Like it or not JJ prolly the most statistically efficient QB's in the best conference in college football. Last time I checked, his comp% was over 60% and his TD to INT is well above average..what is it like 9 to 1? I mean what else do you want from the guy?
Lulz
Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:46 pm to JWill409
well sure someone will take a chance on him. someone will take a chance on jarrett lee too, due to his quick release
but he wont amount to much in the league and i'd be utterly shocked if he goes anywhere above the 6th round
but he wont amount to much in the league and i'd be utterly shocked if he goes anywhere above the 6th round
Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:48 pm to DBG
If either is drafted. Which I doubt. Lee would go first.
Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:48 pm to LSUPHILLY72
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No...I want him to have one option and stare him down despite what the defense dictates.
It was an all out blitz. He made the right read and was going to his hot route.
Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:49 pm to LSUPHILLY72
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No...I want him to have one option and stare him down despite what the defense dictates.
Secondly, it was press coverage on #82 and he missed the jam at the line due to the outside release. #82 then fights to the inside...that is when he should have received the ball.
He doesnt get open till JJ has already let go of the ball
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#29 blitzing lets you know where to throw the ball...PERIOD.
When the corner on that side is playing up and its Dre Kirkpatrick and its a receiver besides randle or OBJ on our team I know not to go to that side. Its like throwing to Mo Claibornes side of the field
Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:50 pm to EarthwormJim
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No one is claiming he is one of the best QBs in this draft class.
Did I only give the top QBs in the draft? CBS ranked all players coming out and that was his ranking. So I ask again who does he have a chance of passing up on that list?
Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:51 pm to Ryno_Kill
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Did I only give the top QBs in the draft? CBS ranked all players coming out and that was his ranking. So I ask again who does he have a chance of passing up on that list?
Read the rest of my post, i answered that
Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:54 pm to EarthwormJim
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It was an all out blitz. He made the right read and was going to his hot route.
I have to respectfully disagree...No way that was a hot route. That was just the play called.
But, the more I watched it...the problem was less with Jordan Jefferson than with the two receivers running into each other. He made a decent play.
Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:56 pm to Adam Banks
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When the corner on that side is playing up and its Dre Kirkpatrick and its a receiver besides randle or OBJ on our team I know not to go to that side. Its like throwing to Mo Claibornes side of the field
I hear ya! After further reviews...the two receivers running into each other threw off the timing of the play. JJ did a good job putting it where the receiver was the only who could have made a play.
Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:57 pm to moneybadger
Ryan Perriloux is a far better runner and passer, and he's barely on the Giants practice squad.
Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:58 pm to LSUPHILLY72
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I have to respectfully disagree...No way that was a hot route. That was just the play called
Yeah, you're probably right. It was just the play called while expecting a blitz.
Posted on 12/2/11 at 12:59 pm to ChemE in the OP
Which NFL draft experts? Can you be specific. He's got a slow dropback, a slow delivery, can't read defenses and isn't a student of the game. He does not have an NFL caliber arm. Hell he can't even throw a 15 yard down and out unless he's rolling to that side. As far as a proven winner and a physical prototype: draft an olympic swimmer.
Posted on 12/2/11 at 1:01 pm to km
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Which NFL draft experts? Can you be specific. He's got a slow dropback, a slow delivery, can't read defenses and isn't a student of the game. He does not have an NFL caliber arm. Hell he can't even throw a 15 yard down and out unless he's rolling to that side. As far as a proven winner and a physical prototype: draft an olympic swimmer.
Posted on 12/2/11 at 1:04 pm to moneybadger
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Ryan Perriloux is a far better runner and passer, and he's barely on the Giants practice squad.
And if he were on the Texans, he'd be a starter. There are teams that JJ could play on. He won't get on a team where he has to beat out 2 established QBs, but there are some flat out terrible QBs in the league right now.
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