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re: New stuff from Will Wade wiretap
Posted on 3/22/20 at 12:49 pm to LSUTigers_00
Posted on 3/22/20 at 12:49 pm to LSUTigers_00
And this is LSU basketball.
Can you imagine Saban, Smart, O, Coach K (couldn’t spell it
) and Self at Kansas.
The money flying around is massive.
Wade gives no fricks because he knows it’s the norm and how this thing works.
Can you imagine Saban, Smart, O, Coach K (couldn’t spell it

The money flying around is massive.
Wade gives no fricks because he knows it’s the norm and how this thing works.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 3:28 pm to tigahlovah
If he wants to go further back google "Jackie Moreland".
Posted on 3/22/20 at 4:47 pm to Gus007
The Will Wade situation has certainly exposed the clickbait junkies and gossip queens here on the Rant.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 5:42 pm to Irish LSU Fan
quote:
Off the top of my head, these are the coaches I think did it right. Although there was the "paper class" scandal at UNC, all of the evidence showed that Dean Smith had no knowledge of it.
(in no particular order....except for #1)
1. John Wooden
Dean Smith
Jim Valvano
Hugh Durham
I ask you to name 10 coaches of top 25 teams, which anyone with a brain would realize I was asking for current coaches.
And you name 4 coaches all-time and still show your arse in the process
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:12 pm to Gus007
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Since you seem to have limited cognitive abilities I will help.
Woodens Legacy
YOU SHOULD READ WHAT YOU LINK. Your Los Angeles Times article proves NOTHING negative about John Wooden.....NOT ONE THING. Like most "liberal" news rags, it intends to damage the reputation with a VERY misleading title and NOTHING in the body of the article. It is a hit piece on Sam Gilbert. The article "infers" that Wooden "knew" that he was "dirty." NO PROOF. Wooden states in an interview that he did not. The list of NCAA violations all took place long after Wooden retired in 1975.
"The most serious allegation levied against Gilbert was that he co-signed a promissory note so a player could buy a car. The NCAA ordered UCLA to disassociate Gilbert from its recruiting process."
This the "worst" thing he did (according to the article). AND, this occurred AFTER Wooden retired!
AND.....
"Larry Brown was UCLA’s basketball coach in 1980; none of the violations were tied to Wooden’s era."
And then......the LA TIMES says this....."The Times established that Gilbert, during Wooden’s heyday, helped players get cars, clothes, airline tickets and scalpers’ prices for UCLA season tickets."
"The LA Times ESTABLISHED" = This is typical "leftist" tabloid crap! ESTABLISHED does not equal PROOF.
EVEN IF IT WERE TRUE and WOODEN KNEW ABOUT IT (which he did not)....None of this even comes close to paying 150,000 - 300,000 for a player!
I'm sorry my friend, you are way off base promoting a narrative that John Wooden was "dirty."
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:14 pm to VL Lsutiger
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go read about Sam Gilbert and John Wooden
I did. Did you?
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:17 pm to Irish LSU Fan
Your hypocrisy and lack of self awareness is stunning.
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:27 pm to Irish LSU Fan
“I have a lot of respect for Wooden as a coach, how he coached, he was a good coach, but from then on, and I don’t mind saying it, I don’t respect Wooden, because he allowed Sam Gilbert to do whatever it took to recruit kids. And one time he told me, he said, ‘I just didn’t know how to deal with Sam Gilbert.’
From bob knight himself ..... LINK
From bob knight himself ..... LINK
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:37 pm to Irish LSU Fan
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TIMES says this....."The Times established that Gilbert, during Wooden’s heyday, helped players get cars, clothes, airline tickets and scalpers’ prices for UCLA season tickets."
You have established that you can't be trusted as the arbiter of right and wrong. Gilbert wasn't responsible for the integrity of the program it was John Wooden's program.
John Wooden established UCLA as the king of the blue bloods. The media refused to investigate how he did it.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:39 pm to Irish LSU Fan
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The article "infers" that Wooden "knew" that he was "dirty." NO PROOF. Wooden states in an interview that he did not.
Wade has stated that he hasn't had any dealings with Dawkins and there is no proof that he has ever played a player. So, where are we at here?
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:06 pm to TigerLunatik
The problem is some of our fans took the bait and instead of choosing to look at the facts continue to stick with smear articles and discredited comments made by a convicted felon. Dawkins was tried for bribery and wire fraud in connection between shoe companies, players and a sports agency.. see anything missing here? Oh yea it’s LSU or any college program for that matter. This FBI investigation was not about coaches paying players. The coaches were dragged into it by Dawkins lawyers in an attempt to smear them and discredit their testimony after they were subpoenaed. Once the comments made front page gossip the NCAA questioned people and then cleared em. That’s why Wade is still coaching at LSU and Smart is still playing.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:21 pm to Madking
I personally think Wade is cheating and don't give two shits about it. But, when people start talking about facts and evidence, there is zero evidence that any players were ever paid and/or that any cheating actually took place.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:19 am to TigerLunatik
I think we have to separate ourselves from the old scandal model in order to see the full picture when it comes to today’s under the table recruiting business. The idea that coaches have access to these amounts of cash is great for headlines and gossip but it isn’t practical or near safe enough. Go look at what went down at Louisville, that’s Likely how most players are being paid now a days.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 1:42 am
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:19 am to Madking
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see anything missing here? Oh yea it’s LSU or any college program for that matter. This FBI investigation was not about coaches paying players.
There were several coaches charged and convicted. The case got to the Feds because there were tens of thousands of dollars changing hands, over state lines, and Uncle Sam didn’t get his cut. No, they don’t give a damn about people impermissible recruiting, but they do care about all that money and none of it being reported.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 3/23/20 at 5:02 pm to lsufball19
Merl Code was the only coach convicted in this case and again it had nothing to do with programs or college basketball. He was also convicted for bribing players in an attempt to have them sign with would be agents Dawkins and his group.
LINK
LINK
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 3/23/20 at 5:49 pm to Madking
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Merl Code was the only coach convicted in this case
Nope. Stop spreading bad information
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:08 pm to TigerLunatik
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Wade has stated that he hasn't had any dealings with Dawkins and there is no proof that he has ever played a player. So, where are we at here?
It does not matter if he went through Dawkins or not. Paying players is the issue!
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:10 pm to Gus007
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Gilbert wasn't responsible for the integrity of the program it was John Wooden's program.
This is true. However, the NCAA takes into account (as they did in the 70's with UCLA) whether the head coach knew about OR should have known about a violation. Remember....EVEN IF THE GILBERT STUFF IS ALL TRUE, IT WAS NOTHING COMPARED TO PAYING 300,000 FOR A PLAYER!
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:11 pm to VL Lsutiger
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I don’t respect Wooden, because he allowed Sam Gilbert to do whatever it took to recruit kids.
Wooden is quoted AND the NCAA found that Wooden knew NOTHING about the Gilbert allegations.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:15 pm to Madking
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Your hypocrisy and lack of self awareness is stunning.
I have been pretty consistent about the allegations (I want an ethical coach and program). Unlike you, I do not condone unethical behavior from our athletic department or athletic programs.....and because I don't, you call me names. Perfect!
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