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Posted on 3/10/19 at 7:55 pm to
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 7:55 pm to
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One of my kids is a Purdue graduate, after visiting different schools he said it looks like at Purdue academics come first, and sports are just to provide entertainment for students, but at LSU athletics come first, and the school is just there to give students something to do between games.

Did you teach your kid to paint with that wide brush or did he learn it visiting Purdue?
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 7:58 pm to
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Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 8:01 pm to
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Did you teach your kid to paint with that wide brush or did he learn it visiting Purdue?


That was his opinion regardless of how he arrived at it, and why Purdue got him as a student, and not LSU. Wonder how many other kids looked around and came to the same conclusion.
Posted by Free Drinks
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 8:08 pm to
Like others have said, good athletics drive applicants which in turn allows the university to be more particular about who they accept and drives academic growth. But more importantly, this was mishandled from the start. Suspending Wade does nothing for the University. Schools that have cooperated in NCAA investigations (there isn't one yet btw) have fared worse in terms of punishment than schools that have filibustered been uncooperative. He threw a wet blanket on what should've been a huge moment for us on national TV and only added to the media narrative. A good president finally should hire an AD he trusts and believes in and then leave the AD to do his job. If Alleva is incompetent then that falls on F King too.
Posted by ccox11
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 8:23 pm to
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Honestly, do you hold the opinion that an LSU president should care more about Athletics?
Not F King specific, frick that dude.

Should the LSU president be all in on athletics? Should that be the identity of the school?

We should go for any president who is all in on sports and doesn’t care about improving academics, right?


I think the President should leave athletics to the athletics director and ONLY worry about academics.

But yes, I think LSU in general is an athletics school more than an academics school so it makes no sense not to prioritize it. If you want to prioritize academics over everything else, go to the Ivy League or Stanford or Vanderbilt or Northwestern, etc. Those schools train highly intelligent people. LSU trains highly athletic people.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 8:28 pm to
The President if the University should barely know that there are sports being played.
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 8:31 pm to
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Posted by Tigris Christi
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:21 pm to
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One of my kids is a Purdue graduate, after visiting different schools he said it looks like at Purdue academics come first, and sports are just to provide entertainment for students, but at LSU athletics come first, and the school is just there to give students something to do between games.



Yep. I'm sorry to say LSU does not prioritize academics and I would not recommend it to either of my children. BTW did you graduate from the Academy?
Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:28 pm to
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It's why Louisiana ranks at or near the bottom of most education metrics


It most certainly is not the reason. Gtfo with this
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:29 pm to
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Should the LSU president be all in on athletics? Should that be the identity of the school?


Yes. Athletics at the level of LSU can attain can be the boon financially and that keeps LSU a top level school. No offense but all those new buildings on LSUs campus aren’t built because LA is just flush with cash. Athletics has built LSUs brand nationally regionally and has brought in sponsorships and financial deals and alumni support that other schools dream of.

Otherwise you wait for the state of LA and it’s politicians to prioritize it thru the budget.

No offense but that will never happen. We aren’t in Indiana. We are in Louisiana.

As a previous poster said. Go look at what winning five titles in nine years did for Bamas bottomline.
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 9:33 pm
Posted by lsuhou74
Houston
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:35 pm to
Absolutely
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:39 pm to
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Yep. I'm sorry to say LSU does not prioritize academics and I would not recommend it to either of my children. BTW did you graduate from the Academy?


Not that smart, OCS, back in the day when a person with a 2.3 GPA was good to go.
Posted by Tigris Christi
Member since Jul 2016
2231 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:51 pm to
The sports first mentality of the people who reside in Louisiana has a TON to do with how poorly we perform in academics!

Same reason the U.S. sucks at soccer, it just isn't a priority!
Posted by Tigris Christi
Member since Jul 2016
2231 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:57 pm to
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Not that smart, OCS, back in the day when a person with a 2.3 GPA was good to go.


Hoo Yah! At least you got into OCS!
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11682 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 9:58 pm to
Depends on the school. If we’re talking Harvard here, then obviously academics is the school identity. Let’s be real, LSU and most state schools are not top quality academic institutions and maybe it wouldn’t hurt to focus a bit more on an athletic identity.
Posted by lsutigermall
Plantation Trace
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:10 pm to
Statistically, athletics are an awesome synergy with athletics. LSU benefits from that.

We often forget that our research and discovery $ dwarf our athletic $.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
11953 posts
Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:15 pm to
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We should go for any president who is all in on sports and doesn’t care about improving academics, right?
We should have a president that cares about every aspect of the university, including athletics. Regardless of how one may feel about athletics and how it relates to an academic institution, the teams of a university serve as a VERY POWERFUL advertising tool, which attracts potential students to that said university. This is why many universities have sports at cost, meaning they actually lose money supporting these athletics programs. As some have stated in the past, the athletics department of a college is the "front porch". It's what makes the first impression of a university.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 10:20 pm to
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he sports first mentality of the people who reside in Louisiana has a TON to do with how poorly we perform in academics!


Exactly correct, LSU is the only school in the SEC whose alumni contributions to athletics are greater than that to academics. I will go out on a limb and say probably the only division I school in America where that is the case. There is something screwed up with the mindset of LSU alumni that cause them to give all the money they can spare to the Tiger Athletic Foundation, but not a dime to academics. In most cases their education at LSU is directly responsible for them being in a career that enables them to have the money to donate, I know a lot of these people, they are anything but rare, and it defies all logic.
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