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re: Never ending thread arguing about Coach O
Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
And you’re the one who seemed to think that Saban underperformed in 2007 because Shula went 10-2 in between two 6-6 seasons.
Sweet ad hominem by the way
Do you do that every time you lose an internet argument? Or are you just naturally an unhappy person?
Sweet ad hominem by the way
Do you do that every time you lose an internet argument? Or are you just naturally an unhappy person?
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Absolutely
There was no penalty after 05
Probation is a penalty Roger. Another fact.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:49 pm to RMcWill1
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And you’re the one who seemed to think that Saban underperformed in 2007
I never said that. Link?
You explicitly blamed the 2007 season on probation announced opinion 2009
Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:49 pm to RMcWill1
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Do you do that every time you lose an internet argument? Or are you just naturally an unhappy person?
Just look at his responses. As soon as he knows he's losing he quits commenting on the content of posts and begins attacking the posters.
He uses this tactic to bury is idiocy 3 or 4 pages down and then starts up again.
Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:50 pm to RB10
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As soon as he knows he's losing he quits commenting on the content of posts and begins attacking the posters
Like you thinking the 2009 penalty announcement affected 2007
Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Like you thinking the 2009 penalty announcement affected 2007
Link?
I said the investigation which led to the penalties could affect the 2007 team. That and just coming off of probation from a previous infraction.
You're making shite up to take focus off of your dumbshit opinions again Roger. Bad look.
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:54 pm to RB10
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I said the investigation which led to the penalties could affect the 2007 team.
The NCAA didn't even have the info in 2007 kiddo.
Of course you've been told this and are desperately trying to save face
Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted by RogerTheShrubber online on 5/12/19 at 8:36 pm to Goldrush25
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Sure, but that teams performance was more of a function of the guy that's leading them
Why did they go 6-6 and lose to ULM in 2007?
Same guy leading them
That doesn’t sound like a ringing endorsement of his performance that year, but I’m sure that won’t stop you from trying to tell me how you expected Saban to go 6-6 in 2007.
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Sure, but that teams performance was more of a function of the guy that's leading them
Why did they go 6-6 and lose to ULM in 2007?
Same guy leading them
That doesn’t sound like a ringing endorsement of his performance that year, but I’m sure that won’t stop you from trying to tell me how you expected Saban to go 6-6 in 2007.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The NCAA didn't even have the info in 2007 kiddo.
Alabama self reported in the middle of the 2007 football season Roger.
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Of course you've been told this and are desperately trying to save face
Kind of like what you did when you were told that Alabama's probation from the 2002 infraction of paying a recruit lasted until 2007?
Keep telling us all how that had no impact on the 2007 season though.
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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31st is decent, not elite
They were 7th in team defense in 2008.
2007 wasn't even a full offseason. When he got his full offseason the results speak for themselves.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:03 pm to RMcWill1
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That doesn’t sound like a ringing endorsement of his performance that year,
Probably has more to do with the fact that it takes more than a year to get your recruits, gain experience, you know the stuff I've been saying all night
But hey, if you pre a drama queen then you can use any word you choose.
Time spent in a program increases chances for success. Even magic St Nick cant snap his fingers and turn it around overnight, even with talent.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Seemed to do a good job of turning a 3-9 LSU team into an 8-5 team in 12 months.
But what do I know I’m just some drama queen.
But what do I know I’m just some drama queen.
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Time spent in a program increases chances for success. Even magic St Nick cant snap his fingers and turn it around overnight, even with talent.
No one's saying overnight. You're exaggerating my argument to its extreme to try to prove your point, which is illogical.
But after his first full offseason, his effect was apparent.
You certainly don't need 3-4 years if you're a great coach.
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:09 pm to RB10
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Keep telling us all how that had no impact on the 2007 season though.
It didnt. Bama had full classes in 2006 and 2007, went 10-2 in 2005
I guess it's impossible to win 10 games while on probation, eh?
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:12 pm to Goldrush25
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But after his first full offseason, his effect was apparent.
So was his recruiting.
11-2 was very impressive in year 2 though.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It didnt. Bama had full classes in 2006 and 2007, went 10-2 in 2005
Probation has an effect of more than just recruiting Roger.
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I guess it's impossible to win 10 games while on probation, eh?
No one said this Roger. The only person speaking in absolutes in this discussion is you.
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Probation had nothing to do with 2097
Geez I would hope not. A 80 year+ probation period.
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:15 pm to Goldrush25
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You certainly don't need 3-4 years
Well Saban won the NCG in year 3
Do you know who did even better?
Gene Chizik.
Do you know how?
But it's always been my stance year three is put up or shut up
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:16 pm to la_birdman
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Geez I would hope not. A 78 year probation period.
frick em. I'll vote for it..
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:18 pm to RB10
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Probation has an effect of more than just recruiting Roger.
Wouldn't you agree that recruiting and bowl bans are the two negative aspects?
If there's no post season ban, and no recruiting penalties probation is kinda worthless.
Bama should have been severely penalized in 2009, but Saban is untouchable
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