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re: Never ending thread arguing about Coach O

Posted on 5/12/19 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 1:14 pm to
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so you don’t agree that Alleva and Alexander needed to be gone?
Go to Put Louisiana First on Twitter if you’re ready to learn something.
how about you donate something if you want change



I despise both of them and I'm ecstatic that they're gone. I put you in the same category as them and would be thrilled if you left on the same train.

And no I don't think that you had a damn thing to do with them being gone. All of that was handled way above your pay grade.
Posted by Mark17
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 1:59 pm to
So if O doesn't beat a Hof coach with a significant talent advantage, on the road, then he is a failure. Goldrush=makes sense.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:01 pm to
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Goldrush=makes sense.


Goldfish says you believe in Ghosts if you also believe
LSU has any chance vs Alabama

Goldfish also says it's impossible to be excited about LSU football because 8 games into the season we will lose to Alabama, so it's pointless

Goldfish never makes sense.
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 2:02 pm
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:08 pm to
not in my opinion. There isn’t a Dorsey, spears, brockers type on the roster. As a matter of fact I don’t think that there is a Williams, Logan type on this roster.
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 2:08 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:19 pm to
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does that mean he is a better coach than Saban



If he gets a division title sure.

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So if O doesn't beat a Hof coach with a significant talent advantage, on the road, then he is a failure.

Clown
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:21 pm to
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There isn’t a Dorsey, spears, brockers type on the roster. As a matter of fact I don’t think that there is a Williams, Logan type on this roster.
q

Lawrence is being listed by some as a potential first round pick. If the space eaters do their thing in the most dole, he very well could
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:26 pm to
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It’s funny you say this and also say O sucks as a coach


It's funny you think o is a top notch coach whose best season is a 10 win third place finish in the SEC West, and also think Miles sucked as a coach and underperformed when he had seasons like o's 2017 and 2018 seasons.

But what I said about Strong has no bearing on my feeling about o. Strong, in my opinion, is a good coach. I believe he's proven that.

In my opinion, o is a good coach. I don't think he's as good as some of the rest of you do, but that's my opinion of him. He's a good coach. Not a great coach, at this time. His history and results prove that to be true at this moment in time. Will he improve? Perhaps. Then again perhaps he won't.
Posted by earl keese
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:30 pm to
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Yeah, the mental gymnastics Earl uses are quite spectacular.


This is funny coming from a guy that scores perfect 10's in all the mental gymnastic events.
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:34 pm to
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not in my opinion. There isn’t a Dorsey, spears, brockers type on the roster. As a matter of fact I don’t think that there is a Williams, Logan type on this roster.




You will see improved DL play with the addition of a pass rush. Chaisson coming back and the emergence of Divinity as a rusher will garner more attention, leaving our DL with more 1 on 1's.

Lawrence is still 20yrs old. He doesnt make 21 until august. He has some growing to do still.

Glen Logan really played well last year with his new body, too. Both of these guys can approach 6-8 sacks.


And no, they wont be those other guys. This is a 3-4 base defense. The alignments and duties are totally different.
Posted by OPTIMAX CAT
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:35 pm to
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bullshite. We talk about possible team weaknesses all the time. Individual players that we hope are better with another year in the system. How coaches are going to do this season. Etc. What I don't do is needlessly and on a personal level attack the coaches. That's something that the poster I'm responding to does constantly. That's where the arguments start. It's not about a difference of opinion.



You're lack of self awareness is baffling.

You're a joke
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:38 pm to
None of this means anything if major strides aren't made against elite competitors. Which to this point nothing has been shown that would lead anyone to think they have been. We will continue to get dominated on both lines for the foreseeable future unless major strides are made and we hit the jackpot on incoming freshman. That's unlikely.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:44 pm to
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You're lack of self awareness is baffling.

You're a joke



You apparently don't know what self awareness is.


No dumbasses like you are the joke.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:44 pm to
Why are you the way you are?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:46 pm to
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None of this means anything if major strides aren't made against elite competitors. Which to this point nothing has been shown that would lead anyone to think they have been. We will continue to get dominated on both lines for the foreseeable future unless major strides are made and we hit the jackpot on incoming freshman. That's unlikely



I guess that you didn't see the new noseguard. I believe that the gap is closing. This recruiting class is looking good so far.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:49 pm to
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Why are you the way you are



I guess because I despise sorry motherfrickers.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:53 pm to
I've seen him. So what? I want results. Not the same old story about improved play coming out of the propaganda machine known as LSU football.

And yes, I agree the recruiting class is looking good. However, we have been down this road before with top classes full of skill position players. How did that work out for us?
Posted by earl keese
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Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:56 pm to
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The other coach couldn’t win at OM a perennial bottom dweller in the toughest conference in the country, meanwhile since then is 31-11 at 2 of the elite programs...ones dedicated to winning unlike OM.


Yeah, o did a good job as the interim coach at USC and LSU. He didn't, as an interim coach, and hasn't as the full time head coach at LSU, set the world on fire, but he's done a decent job.

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He blamed the culture at Texas for his failures yet O doesn’t get a pass for his failures at OM, a team that hasn’t been a winner since the 60’s


Well Charlie Strong didn't completely sink the Texas program like o did at Ole Miss.

The four years before Strong took over the Longhorns, they went 5-7, 8-5, 9-4 and 8-5 before Stong went 6-7, 5-7 and 5-7 in his three years.

O, on the other hand, took over an Ole Miss program that had gone 7-4, 7-6, 10-3 and 4-7 the four years before becoming the head coach, and went 3-8, 4-8 and 3-9 in his three years. Immediately after being fired, Ole Miss had back to back 9 win seasons.

But to each their own. You think o will be the savior of the LSU football program, and judging by some of your posts, you don't doubt this at all, and I'm on the fence about what he can accomplish here.

You're impressed with 9-4 and 10-3 seasons records and I want to see better results. That's where we stand Trout.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:57 pm to
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guess that you didn't see the new noseguard


I think the Defensive line will be very good if he can contribute some qualit snaps. Shelvin looked good at the end of the season as well
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:00 pm to
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Which to this point nothing has been shown that would lead anyone to think they have been. We will continue to get dominated on both lines for the foreseeable future unless major strides are made and we hit the jackpot on incoming freshman. That's unlikely.



here's a newsflash; players who start for the first time can get better in year 2. Young players that didn't play at all get better in year 2. Competition breeds excellence. Being healthy helps. This isnt the same group as last year.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:01 pm to
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When O has a better record in his first 3 years at LSU does that mean he is a better coach than Saban?



Thanks for the laugh Trout.
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