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re: Myth: It's Hard to Beat the Same Team Twice

Posted on 12/13/11 at 7:31 pm to
Posted by TwinkleToez
NOLA
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Posted on 12/13/11 at 7:31 pm to
so we have a 62% chance which means. the score is gonna be 12 to 7. LSU isn't going to score one touchdown. it's all on alleman
Posted by Books
BR
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 12/13/11 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

It's Hard to Beat a Good Team Twice
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Posted by vjp819
South Sec. 414 / Alex Box Sec. 210
Member since Nov 2003
10882 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

1997 LSU lost to Notre Dame in BR, then beat ND a month later in the Independence Bowl


Good point, and we beat them by almost the same score they beat us earlier.
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 7:41 pm to
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I don't think there has been much change in LSU/Bama's capabilities since 11/5, LSU's passing game remains very pedestrian.



JJ is going to start. That's a BIG change.

Yes, LSU's passing game is not such a much. Less than with JL, IMO.
But the running will be much better.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 7:47 pm to
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It's Hard to Beat the Same Team Twice


THat saying sucks. The winning team also learns from the game as well as the losers. No one has an advantage except for the WINNER of the 1st.

You always have the upper hand mentally when you have gone to someone's house and ate their food and slept with their woman.

THink like a young cocky man. Our guys know they can take whatever ALA throws at em. There will be no letdown in the NC game.

We were better then and we are better now. And too bad about there F'ing kickers, they are part of the team and Sabam recruited them.

Field position wins these type of games and we are WAY WAY better at playing that game. It's ours to lose, wuit letting the wimps creep doubt into your head with overthought posts!
Posted by TigerTreyjpg
Monroe, LA
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 12/13/11 at 7:51 pm to
Whew, we got this.....
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 12/13/11 at 7:51 pm to
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According to the website College Football By The Numbers, there have been just 49 [rematches] since 1950. The winner of the first game was 29-18 [62%] in the rematches.


30-18 after the BCSCG!

Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31035 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 7:52 pm to
The good news is that LSU is 3-0 in same season rematches over the last decade-plus..wins over 1997 Notre, 2001 Tenn, and 2003 UGA.

1-0 vs Saban in bowl games(MSU 1995 Indy Bowl)..2-1 vs Saban in La(the loss in OT).

This post was edited on 12/13/11 at 7:55 pm
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28041 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 8:03 pm to
Yeah but u know saban doesn't lose a revenge game though....oh wait
Posted by HeadCoach
Shady's Parking Lot
Member since Mar 2009
5659 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 8:12 pm to
O gawd the old timers are gonna be pissed
Posted by snake1
I Dont Know
Member since Dec 2010
535 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 8:15 pm to
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Myth: It's Hard to Beat the Same Team Twice



It seems like some of you forgot about LSU defeating uga twice... once in red stick and again in the georgia dome for the secc.......




Posted by PlanoPrivateer
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2929 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 8:24 pm to
It is interesting that the example in the article was a blow out in the first game and the same team still won by double digits in the rematch. I think it is difficult for two closely matched teams for one team to win both games. That is what we have here. Alabama isn’t scared of us because we won the first time. They are going to be pissed.
Posted by tiger in the gump
Member since Jan 2005
795 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 8:37 pm to
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1997 LSU lost to Notre Dame in BR, then beat ND a month later in the Independence Bowl



Good point, and we beat them by almost the same score they beat us earlier.



First game LSU was superflat in the middle of a SEC race and ND was on a bad losing streak. Bowl game obviously a month away is a totally different game. I mean it's the only game to think about for a whole month. ND was getting beat by everybody, you think they really could just push us around like that any other day?
Posted by RightWingTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
5857 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 8:53 pm to
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I think this time with the NC being on the line, it prevents Bama from gaining the psychological edge of being the team with something to prove.


I agree and actually think LSU will have the "something to prove" mentality because we won the first game but keep hearing Saban and his players and most media types say they gave it to us. Our guys go into this game KNOWING they can (and did) beat Bama at their house.

I think Bama will feel the majority of the pressure coming into this game and as the game clock counts down and LSU continues to lean on and punish them they will start having little seeds of doubt springing up in the back of their minds making them wonder if they really did out play LSU and were the better team the first time or maybe just maybe Saban and all of the Bama lovers on TV and Radio were just plain wrong and this LSU team has something special that no other team they have played against has - they just will not allow themselves or their teammates to lose!

Then for the first time this year Bama and everyone watching will be forced to acknowledge the obvious (something most of us have known for a while now) that not only was LSU the better team on Nov 5th but that they were the best college football team in the country from the very first game till the very last game of the 2011-2012 season!!! And as the whole college football world is watching LSU lift the crystal football up into a sea of purple and gold confetti it will start to sink in that this team may very well be one of the best college football teams ever...........and then it will dawn on those smart enough to realize it but this team returns all but a few of the unbelievable playmakers that have dominated every team thrown at them and will be EVEN BETTER next year!!! God how great will it feel come about 11pm January 9th - I can't freaking stand the wait.
Posted by NOTiger08
Member since Aug 2011
20 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 9:45 pm to
1999 – Florida / Alabama
10–2–1999 #21 Alabama
#3 Ben Hill Griffin Stadium • Gainesville, Florida CBS L 39–40 OT

12–4–1999 #7 Alabama
#5 Georgia Dome • Atlanta, Georgia (SEC Championship)
ABC
L 7–34
2000 – Florida / Auburn
10–14–2000 #19 Auburn
#10 Ben Hill Griffin Stadium • Gainesville, FL CBS W 38–7 85,710
12–2–2000 #18 Auburn
#7 Georgia Dome • Atlanta, GA (SEC Championship)
ABC W 28–6 73,427
2001 Ten / LSU
September 29 #14 LSU
#7 Neyland Stadium • Knoxville, TN ESPN
W 26–18 108,472
December 8 8:00 PM vs. #21 LSU
#2 Georgia Dome • Atlanta, GA (2001 SEC Championship Game)
CBS L 20–31 74,843

2003 Ga / LSU
2003-09-20 at #11 LSU
#7 Tiger Stadium • Baton Rouge, LA
CBS L 10–17 92,251[14]

2003-12-06 vs. #3 LSU #5 Georgia Dome • Atlanta, GA (SEC Championship Game)
CBS L 13–34 74,913[14]


2010 SC / Auburn
September 25 7:45 pm at #17 Auburn
#12 Jordan-Hare Stadium • Auburn, AL
ESPN/ESPN 3D
L 27–35 87,451
December 4 4:00 pm vs. #2 Auburn
#18 Georgia Dome • Atlanta, GA (2010 SEC Championship Game)
CBS L 17–56 75,802

Generally in the SEC the better team whens both contest
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 10:04 pm to
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After being up early UT had no business losing that game as they had the better athletes.

More experienced athletes maybe. But Saban's #1 ranked recruiting class, Clayton, Spears, Hill and company made that an outstanding team by the second half of the season. BTW I was at that game and it was obvious that the Vols had a goal of knocking Davie out of the contest. Be careful what you ask for is what they learned that night.
Posted by msully
Nashville
Member since Aug 2011
1088 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 10:33 pm to
To help save the Sugar Bowl, LSU consented to play the rematch game against Ole Miss. That game totally deflated LSU, and Ole Miss won the game 21-0. That game was the only shellacking handed LSU in that two-year period of time. That was in 1959, a rematch which LSU lost after beating Ole Miss in the 1st game .

Odds say Bama wins heart says LSU wins ,
Posted by GooberT
Carencro, LA
Member since Sep 2009
247 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 10:43 pm to
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LSU's passing game remains very pedestrian.


True. But I like the fcat that JJ has 5 weeks to work on it, catch his breath, and even though the 'tards have the same amount of time to anticipate it, I believe we'll see an effective play-action passing game if we can just establish a credible running game early. In November, we didn't run it very well early, an undertatement, so play-action by Lee/Jefferson was ineffective. With the time to prepare, Coach Miles will have those kinks worked out. I like our chances with him having that much time to prepare over Saban with the same amount of time...if you know what I mean. Tigers.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53932 posts
Posted on 12/13/11 at 11:09 pm to
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quote: That was with Ole Miss in New Year's Day Sugar Bowl 1960. We lost that one 21-0.


Got pissed off the other day (not really). Wife ppv'd The help and it mentioned ole miss winning the sugar bowl. Geaux to hell ol miss.
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