re: My views on Les Miles

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However, when comparing the 5 year mark of Saban and Miles, You have to remember where were the programs positioned in relation to each other. Remember the state of the program when Saban took over after Dinardo vs. the state of the program when Miles took over after Saban.

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Miles indeed took over a much better program than Saban, and the records indicate as such, so I'm not sure why anti-Miles guys always come back to this.

It would be one thing if Miles' record after five years was worse than Saban's record after five years. Then you'd have a point that actually tells us something.

Although Miles took over a better situation, he has a better record than Saban did in five years, as he should, so that whole discussion is pretty moot IMO. It is as it should be.

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Look at what he inherited, and what it has become.

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A program that is poised to compete for SEC titles the next 3 years?

Certainly we've "taken a step back" the last two seasons, but to claim that the program has fallen off the cliff as you imply is simply wrong, and irrationally dramatic.

Chill out and enjoy the ride. What happens will happen. We will either win, or we will lose. Miles will either keep his job, or he won't. It will all work out, and up to this point, it has worked out pretty well for us as LSU fans in general under both Saban and Miles.

I see a program "poised" to go 8-4 for years to come. And sadly, I don't think miles will be fired with 8-4 next year.

I think comparing NS's and LM's records is irrational, which is the only thing that miles supporters have to argue.

That said, I hope I am wrong.

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Saban's final 'recruits' graduated last year so Miles is 5-3 in the SEC without Saban's recruits.

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I stand corrected, but the majority of contributing players in 08 and 09 were Miles recruits. I can count about only 10 remaining Saban recruits in 08. Charles Alexander was the last remaining Saban recruit.

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It's all on Miles now.

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This.

Do you think 8-4 will get Miles fired next year? I don't

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I think comparing NS's and LM's records is irrational, which is the only thing that miles supporters have to argue.

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So, you think it's the "miles supporters" who evoke the Nick chat, huh. Please, give me a break.

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I see a program "poised" to go 8-4 for years to come.

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Miles is going no where for the next 2 years unless LSU has a total collapse or he pulls some kinda Tiger Woods thing.

After that, 8-4 will only get him a pat on the back as he is ushered out the door. imo

What the program is ""poised" to do I don't know. I can see 8-4 and I can also see 10-2. I'm gonna hold my water and see what happens cause I think the team deserves that from its fans, but others can do as they wish.

A lot of people said this early on, but I didn't want to believe it and figured they were just having Saban withdrawals. But as the Saban culture of excellence and focused leadership faded away, the last two seasons and Les's teams and coaching performance speak volumes as to his inability to operate in the SEC football world. He is still a Big 12 coach at OSU. Like his skill players, Les has not grown with the position.


Jawja, I felt the same way in 05 and 06. I didnt like him but i tried to give him a chance. However; you cant ignore the last 2 years. I have seen enuff, Les needs to go.

I am extremely sick of hearing from all the Saban jock sniffers who will never understand that SABAN IS GONE, HE WILL NEVER BE BACK!!!!Please get off of that FINALLY!! Besides, LSU should have beaten Alabama the last two years. In 2008, but for a freshman QB throwing three picks, the last in overtime, LSU would have won. And in 2009, LSU was ahead until our starting Soph. QB left the game, and our all-American CB left the game, and an Alabama "homer" re-play official "missed" a call that everyone else in America knew was wrong. But in both of those victories, and both of his undefeated seasons and his SEC and NC, he had an advantage over everyone else....he was playing with STEVE SLOAN RECRUITED QUARTER BACKS!!! Neither one was recruited by Saban. Both are high character guys, with excellent skills. Why don't we give the credit for Saban's two undefeated seasons to the coach who rightfully deserves it....Steve Sloan, because Saban actually won with Sloan's players, not his own??!!

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With all due respect to both USC and Tennessee, both those schools had to go to 4th or 5th or 6th choices to fill their jobs and I don't want those kinda gambles for LSU unless we have to. I would much rather gamble on a coach who has BCS bowl wins, SEC wins, and NC title than one who finished 5th in the WAC.

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This is what all of the negative people around here don't understand. Firing the head coach is not a solution. It is a problem that must be addressed with the hiring of a better coach in order to be a solution. It is not a "sure thing" that LSU could get a coach that could run the program better than Miles at this point. We have very good coaches on this staff and very good recruiters. The best thing for the program is for these coaches to succeed and for us as fans to get behind them and support them as long as they are coaching our team.

The problem with all the comparisons between Miles and Saban is that Saban is never going to come back to Baton Rouge. It would be more accurate to compare Miles to coaches we actually have a shot a hiring if the administration decided to make a change. Just going by who the last two major programs hired(USC & Tennessee), I hope Miles turns it around and gets us back to Atlanta.

I know Miles is not perfect but no coach is. I have critized some of his decisions after games but I also have seen him coach his team to championship seasons. I do think he has the staff and talent in place to have another championship run if things start out positive in 2010. Weather that is a divisional championship, conference championship or national championship depends on how players at critical positions devolop during this offseason. I also see enough negative in the fan base that if things don't start out good, the wheels could come off and the negative feelings of the fans could get inside the locker room. All those that think all this negative does not affect the team are crazy.