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My thoughts on Alleva and the fans
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:37 am
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:37 am
TL;DR version:
Alleva wants LSU fans to accept mediocrity to save his job.
LSU fans shouldn’t spend their money if mediocrity (<10 wins) settles.
Tiger fans, please never stop demanding excellence from our athletic programs, especially football. 9 or less wins should not be satisfactory, and I’m of the opinion that Joe Alleva would love nothing more than for LSU’s fan base to lose most of their pride and become humbled by mediocrity. I remember a time around 2000 and 2001 when losing to Florida and Tennessee was “OK”, because they were better than us. At the end of the 2001 season, our mindsets started to shift due in part to LSU beating a very good Auburn team, an SEC Championship and a Sugar Bowl victory. Once the 2003 season ended, we were the BCS National Champions, and LSU was expected to win moving forward, as we are now a nationally recognized power program. Money starts pouring in to the athletic department, as the high level of play was maintained and even intensified.
I don’t want to see our fans go the route fans of once powerhouse programs like Texas, Tennessee etc. have endured the past 9-10 seasons. We as fans have a lot to do with how decisions are made based on how we decide to spend our money. It’s ok to cheer for the Tigers when they’re down, but they don’t get any of the money we spend on concessions or merchandise.
Posters on this board shouting “DON’T BE NEGATIVE” have a point to an extent. But please do be cautious about how our beloved Tiger football program is being ran. If this thing starts to sink, the best thing you can do for the players is encourage them when you see them, because they’ll always be Tigers. The best thing you can do for the program is keep it in your wallet.
All this being said, I’m excited about this year, and I expect 10 wins. Geaux Tigers!
Alleva wants LSU fans to accept mediocrity to save his job.
LSU fans shouldn’t spend their money if mediocrity (<10 wins) settles.
Tiger fans, please never stop demanding excellence from our athletic programs, especially football. 9 or less wins should not be satisfactory, and I’m of the opinion that Joe Alleva would love nothing more than for LSU’s fan base to lose most of their pride and become humbled by mediocrity. I remember a time around 2000 and 2001 when losing to Florida and Tennessee was “OK”, because they were better than us. At the end of the 2001 season, our mindsets started to shift due in part to LSU beating a very good Auburn team, an SEC Championship and a Sugar Bowl victory. Once the 2003 season ended, we were the BCS National Champions, and LSU was expected to win moving forward, as we are now a nationally recognized power program. Money starts pouring in to the athletic department, as the high level of play was maintained and even intensified.
I don’t want to see our fans go the route fans of once powerhouse programs like Texas, Tennessee etc. have endured the past 9-10 seasons. We as fans have a lot to do with how decisions are made based on how we decide to spend our money. It’s ok to cheer for the Tigers when they’re down, but they don’t get any of the money we spend on concessions or merchandise.
Posters on this board shouting “DON’T BE NEGATIVE” have a point to an extent. But please do be cautious about how our beloved Tiger football program is being ran. If this thing starts to sink, the best thing you can do for the players is encourage them when you see them, because they’ll always be Tigers. The best thing you can do for the program is keep it in your wallet.
All this being said, I’m excited about this year, and I expect 10 wins. Geaux Tigers!
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 10:58 am
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:55 am to lsudat10
Where were the thought police when les was winning 10 games a year and NOT long to Troy?... they wanted him gone just because “the offense doesn’t look pretty”
These are the same people wanting others banned for having legitimate problems with orgeron
These are the same people wanting others banned for having legitimate problems with orgeron
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:56 am to lsudat10
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:58 am to deathvalleyfreak43
quote:
the offense doesn’t look pretty
no it was because he refused to make adjustments in the biggest game in lsu history.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:04 am to deathvalleyfreak43
quote:
Where were the thought police when les was winning 10 games a year
People on this board wanted Miles canned after 2013 when we had one of the best offenses in LSU history. The gripe was that the team was too talented to lose 2 games. Many of those same people are the ones who are in a love fest with O. I can't understand it.
Point is, somehow O has managed the lower the expectations of even Miles' most staunch critics. It blows my mind that some of those same people are ok with LSU potentially going 8-4. Then when people like you and I point out the hypocrisy of demanding 10 or more wins from Miles only to lower bar for O, they say we're "not real fans" or we WANT LSU to lose. It's insanity.
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 8:19 am
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:09 am to ibleedprplngld
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Those same people are the ones who are in a love fest with O
this is the biggest bullshite lie on the Rant.
newsflash. we can hate both
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:13 am to lsudat10
Should have titled your thread Dear Joe and Dear Tiger Fans.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:18 am to Nado Jenkins83
Edited just for you.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:26 am to lsudat10
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:33 am to lsudat10
I love it when they say "Miles only one games because he recruited great talent " as if that's not what he's supposed to do.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:33 am to ibleedprplngld
thanks. feels like you have to pick one or the other on here. i dont approve of either for the way college football is trending
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:34 am to ibleedprplngld
“Only to lower the bar for O”
No one can really deny the fact that the expectations of some are suddenly not the same expectations they would have expressed in 2015. At that time even a 10 win season, which we would have reached if the McNeese game hadn’t been canceled, would have been frowned upon. Now, the talk is that 9 wins should be acceptable cause we night play a had schedule. As if, playing the 5th ranked SOS in 2015 was a piece of cake. lol
If anyone didn’t think the 10 wins was good enough before, then 10 wins shouldn’t be good enough now. imo
No one can really deny the fact that the expectations of some are suddenly not the same expectations they would have expressed in 2015. At that time even a 10 win season, which we would have reached if the McNeese game hadn’t been canceled, would have been frowned upon. Now, the talk is that 9 wins should be acceptable cause we night play a had schedule. As if, playing the 5th ranked SOS in 2015 was a piece of cake. lol
If anyone didn’t think the 10 wins was good enough before, then 10 wins shouldn’t be good enough now. imo
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:35 am to deathvalleyfreak43
Miles could not beat Alabama. Simple as that. LSU was and still is going nowhere in CFB.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:45 am to LSUStar
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Miles could not beat Alabama
Wrong. He beat Alabama 3 times (more than any coach since Saban took over at Alabama) 2 of Miles’ losses were in overtime. He lost 1 with a minute to go in the game.
quote:
LSU was and still is going nowhere in CFB.
That’s your opinion, but what are you going to do about it?
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 9:08 am
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:49 am to ibleedprplngld
Excellent! Well said
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:59 am to lsudat10
quote:
Wrong. He beat Alabama 3 times
... When they were rebuilding. From the direction he was going in the end, he was never going to beat them again. The gap was getting wide and wider.
If we ever wanted to be relevant to be relevant in the post season a change had to happen. Nobody (most anyway) thought that meant it had to be Orgeron.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:03 am to lsudat10
HOLY WALL OF TEXT BATMAN
DIDNT READ
DIDNT READ
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:05 am to LSUStar
quote:
Miles could not beat Alabama.
he could not beat them post 1-9. saban broke miles. was living rent free in his head post 1-9. saban made miles quit in the natty
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:50 am to tigertex1992
“When they were rebuilding”
You really think Bama was rebuilding in 2011?
“ A change had to happen”
A change simply to have a change, doesn’t work out most times.
And you had confidence in Joe being the person to decide when that change should take place and who the change should be to?? I never did and I was fearful of this very thing happening.
The firing of Les Miles, to this point in time, and the way it took place was a mistake. It’s been both ineffective and costly. Hopefully, that will change this season.
You really think Bama was rebuilding in 2011?
“ A change had to happen”
A change simply to have a change, doesn’t work out most times.
And you had confidence in Joe being the person to decide when that change should take place and who the change should be to?? I never did and I was fearful of this very thing happening.
The firing of Les Miles, to this point in time, and the way it took place was a mistake. It’s been both ineffective and costly. Hopefully, that will change this season.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:10 am to lsudat10
Tell me in the past 5 years what LSU football has accomplished? I’ll wait.
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