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re: My Spring Practice Observations
Posted on 4/1/09 at 9:06 am to ForeLSU
Posted on 4/1/09 at 9:06 am to ForeLSU
Jarrett Lee is afraid of contact and it totally explains why he performs so well in practices and scrimmages, but is prone to mistakes and mechanical breakdowns in live action.
the hit that he took against auburn while completing the TD pass to Chris Mitcheel rattled him all season.
try as he might, crowton could not get lee to improve. he would check through his progressions in practice, but would lock in on one target in games. he would look off defenders in practice, but never took his eyes off of his target in games. he would step up in the pocket in practice, but never in games - always backing away, throwing off of his back foot. he would wait for receivers to come open in practice, but would throw too soon in games. he would scramble to buy time or pick up yardage in practice, but would throw it away quickly in games. he would run QB draws in practice, but never in games.
Lee lost the team for good against alabama when he threw the pick deep down the middle of the field to Rashard Johnson. Lee stood in the pocket and watched as johnson matriculated his way down the sideline and into the endzone. just like he had done on all of his previous interceptions, LEE NEVER MOVED OUT OF THE POCKET. The fear of being blocked by a wild-eyed defender kept him safely away from the play. This decision by Lee was caught on game film and the whole team saw it.
if Lee can ever overcome this flaw, he can be great. he absolutely does throw a beautiful ball with a live arm and the quickest release you will ever see.
the hit that he took against auburn while completing the TD pass to Chris Mitcheel rattled him all season.
try as he might, crowton could not get lee to improve. he would check through his progressions in practice, but would lock in on one target in games. he would look off defenders in practice, but never took his eyes off of his target in games. he would step up in the pocket in practice, but never in games - always backing away, throwing off of his back foot. he would wait for receivers to come open in practice, but would throw too soon in games. he would scramble to buy time or pick up yardage in practice, but would throw it away quickly in games. he would run QB draws in practice, but never in games.
Lee lost the team for good against alabama when he threw the pick deep down the middle of the field to Rashard Johnson. Lee stood in the pocket and watched as johnson matriculated his way down the sideline and into the endzone. just like he had done on all of his previous interceptions, LEE NEVER MOVED OUT OF THE POCKET. The fear of being blocked by a wild-eyed defender kept him safely away from the play. This decision by Lee was caught on game film and the whole team saw it.
if Lee can ever overcome this flaw, he can be great. he absolutely does throw a beautiful ball with a live arm and the quickest release you will ever see.
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Posted on 4/1/09 at 9:14 am to JustSmokin
JL was put in a tough position and our fanbase didn't help matters one bit. Our expectations were too high and we suffered the pains of having a freshman quarterback in the SEC. We need JL on this team more than people realize because he provides quality depth on our roster at a position that we're very young at.
Posted on 4/1/09 at 9:18 am to hashtag
quote:The defense gave up because the offense would screw it up. It's the chicken vs. the egg theory. Which was first?
Giving up 50+ points against both Georgia and Florida was unforgivable. Having the Bama game in-hand only to have two defensive players give it away by being selfish and stupid is unforgivable. Allowing Ole Miss and Arkansas to score 30+ points is unforgivable. Having a handfull of players on your team quit on the season because we have an unexperienced QB who makes mistakes is unforgivable.
Any rational Tiger fan can see JLee caused most of the problems on offense, and the defensive scheme and lack of will by the players themselves caused the defensive woes. You can't blame it all on one or the other. Fact is, they fed off of each other until they created the clusterfrick that was the '08 season.
Posted on 4/1/09 at 9:30 am to 3HourTour
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Let's give Lee more time before we compare him to Booty
you mean a guy that had an awful start to his career but turned it around to become an ALL SEC player? I'm not a fan of the Booty's but people act like Josh was the worst LSU qb of all time. lee would be lucky at this point to have a career like Josh had.
as for JL being the best passer of the group....ehhhh. He throws a good deep ball, but has awful touch on his intermediate throws
This post was edited on 4/1/09 at 9:31 am
Posted on 4/1/09 at 10:03 am to FLObserver
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You people amaze me the kid was a redshirt freshman!!He was thrown into the fire and had many mental errors but to write him off Jeez. If Peyton manning had fans like us his first year at Indy where he had like 20 int's he'd probably be with Ryan Leaf right now coaching at some high school. Not that i'm saying Lee will be Peyton Manning but i'm hoping he's learned something and i do believe before Jared leaves LSU he will have won some games for us.
I think its a HUGE STRETCH to compare a redshirt freshmen quarterback to a top pick NFL quarterback. I understand where you were going with it, but let's be completely honest, the NFL and the SEC are completely different. I, like you, hope he learns something from last year. One of the differences i see between him and manning, and i can't believe i am actually comparing them in anything, but manning's work ethic is unbelievable. I have never heard of anyone preparing for something as hard as he prepares for the other teams he faces. If Lee put half of that work ethic into this year he would most likely have one of the best years we have seen.
Posted on 4/1/09 at 10:04 am to BilJ
i'm so tired of these "he was on a RS Freshman" excuses.. JJ came in as a TRUE Freshman with half the time to learn the offense or the playbook and wasnt even practicing with the first string.. theres a whole lot more to playing QB than throwing a ball, if that were the case JaMarcus should be one of the greatest QBs to ever live.. an arm doesnt make the QB, intangibles do and from what i've seen thus far JJ is leaps and bounds ahead of JL in that department.. at this point whether its right or not Lee has to earn his respect back into the huddle and thats not gonna happen in practice or in scrimmages against teammates, plain and simple he's not seeing the field until something happens to JJ.. which certainly isnt out of the realm of possibility but all this "what if he starts on opening day" is nothing more than wishful thinking
Posted on 4/1/09 at 10:05 am to CalLSU
I don't understand why people say that Lee has a stronger arm. Did anyone watch the georgia tech game? There was a play that was called back becuase of holding, but on that play, JJ rolled out and threw a dart to Lafell for a huge touchdown. I don't remember exactly how far that ball traveled. But i would bet it went at least 50. He hit Lafell in stride. Also, we haven't seen enough of JJ to know if his arm is greater or smaller than Lee's
Posted on 4/1/09 at 10:20 am to lsufball19
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I really wish Jarrett Lee didn't play like a deer in headlights in games
Kind of like Les did his first few games? Especially the Tenn. home opener?
Experience is a GREAT teacher!
Posted on 4/1/09 at 10:31 am to MiketheTiger69
Using the logic of the LSU fanbase, Matthew Stafford should have never touched the field after his freshman year. Someone mentioned Peyton Manning...same thing.
Bottomline is this, he has the physical tools and the players around him to succeed.
All questions for Jarrett Lee are between his own two ears. If he can solve those issues, some of which were inflicted by the lowly of the LSU fans, he could be very good.
Sidenote: Jefferson played one good half of football this past season, the rest of the time he looked completely lost.
Jefferson is as big of a question mark at this point as Lee, whether you admit it or not. The 2009 LSU football season will live or die with QB play.
Bottomline is this, he has the physical tools and the players around him to succeed.
All questions for Jarrett Lee are between his own two ears. If he can solve those issues, some of which were inflicted by the lowly of the LSU fans, he could be very good.
Sidenote: Jefferson played one good half of football this past season, the rest of the time he looked completely lost.
Jefferson is as big of a question mark at this point as Lee, whether you admit it or not. The 2009 LSU football season will live or die with QB play.
Posted on 4/1/09 at 10:37 am to King Mello
the team respects jefferson, both offense and defense.
it was no accident that we looked so much better in the peach bowl knowing that JJ was our QB instead of lee.
it was change they could believe in.
it was no accident that we looked so much better in the peach bowl knowing that JJ was our QB instead of lee.
it was change they could believe in.
Posted on 4/1/09 at 10:52 am to DeltaDoc
quote:
Using the logic of the LSU fanbase, Matthew Stafford should have never touched the field after his freshman year. Someone mentioned Peyton Manning...same thing.
Bottomline is this, he has the physical tools and the players around him to succeed.
All questions for Jarrett Lee are between his own two ears. If he can solve those issues, some of which were inflicted by the lowly of the LSU fans, he could be very good.
Sidenote: Jefferson played one good half of football this past season, the rest of the time he looked completely lost.
Jefferson is as big of a question mark at this point as Lee, whether you admit it or not. The 2009 LSU football season will live or die with QB play.
in Jeffersons "one good half" he looked better than JL the whole season including the Aubarn game
.. not to mention the kid just made it to the team a couple months before the season even started.. to see him come in with the weight of the world on his shoulders and still show the poise and leadership he did, speaks volumes for the kid's and this program's future.. the way he commanded that huddle from the moment he stepped in was just uncanny for a true freshman and from that day he never looked back.. to say he's got 3 years to build off of that, i for one am excited to see him lead us back to greatnessPosted on 4/1/09 at 10:56 am to JustSmokin
is crowton incapable of playing smash-mouth football...
instead of placing lee in the eye of the storm, LSU should have lined up Scott behind those hogs and said 'stop this'...
pretty quickly defenses would have been begging the ball put in the air because they would have been sick of scott and williams running over them, and murphy and trindon running around them
instead of placing lee in the eye of the storm, LSU should have lined up Scott behind those hogs and said 'stop this'...
pretty quickly defenses would have been begging the ball put in the air because they would have been sick of scott and williams running over them, and murphy and trindon running around them
Posted on 4/1/09 at 11:10 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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The defense gave up because the offense would screw it up.
I don't think you'll find a single player on the defensive side of the ball that will ever admit to giving up ... if they do, then they don't belong on defense. It's the nature of playing defense. Now the schemes may suck and players may be put in position to fail, but I doubt that they "give up".
Posted on 4/1/09 at 11:13 am to CalLSU
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JJ rolled out and threw a dart to Lafell for a huge touchdown
You remember this play differently than I do. I seem to remember the ball having quite a bit of air under it to enable Lafell to run under it ... a great pass nonetheless, but not a "dart".
Posted on 4/1/09 at 11:39 am to 1984Tiger
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but I doubt that they "give up".
then I doubt that you watched LSU play last year.
Posted on 4/1/09 at 11:43 am to 1984Tiger
quote:
You remember this play differently than I do. I seem to remember the ball having quite a bit of air under it to enable Lafell to run under it ... a great pass nonetheless, but not a "dart".
You may be correct on that, the only thing i do remember is that it was for a touchdown. I know the play got called back, but it was for holding, nothing to do with the pass. My point was, it was a very good pass, it was a deep throw and it did hit lafell in his hands. I don't know if JJ can throw the ball farther than JL, but i do know that i have seen JJ throw the ball just as good in the 10-25 yard range as JL. And most of JL's interceptions came in that range. We don't throw the ball deep very much, but we do throw those mid-range balls all the time, so we need a QB that throws those balls good, IMO JJ throws those better
Posted on 4/1/09 at 11:47 am to hashtag
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Having the Bama game in-hand only to have two defensive players give it away by being selfish and stupid is unforgivable.
wrong game
Posted on 4/1/09 at 11:51 am to gliterein
quote:
Jarrett Lee is afraid of contact and it totally explains why he performs so well in practices and scrimmages, but is prone to mistakes and mechanical breakdowns in live action.
the hit that he took against auburn while completing the TD pass to Chris Mitcheel rattled him all season.
try as he might, crowton could not get lee to improve. he would check through his progressions in practice, but would lock in on one target in games. he would look off defenders in practice, but never took his eyes off of his target in games. he would step up in the pocket in practice, but never in games - always backing away, throwing off of his back foot. he would wait for receivers to come open in practice, but would throw too soon in games. he would scramble to buy time or pick up yardage in practice, but would throw it away quickly in games. he would run QB draws in practice, but never in games.
Lee lost the team for good against alabama when he threw the pick deep down the middle of the field to Rashard Johnson. Lee stood in the pocket and watched as johnson matriculated his way down the sideline and into the endzone. just like he had done on all of his previous interceptions, LEE NEVER MOVED OUT OF THE POCKET. The fear of being blocked by a wild-eyed defender kept him safely away from the play. This decision by Lee was caught on game film and the whole team saw it.
if Lee can ever overcome this flaw, he can be great. he absolutely does throw a beautiful ball with a live arm and the quickest release you will ever see.
sad but true...
Posted on 4/1/09 at 11:54 am to lsufball19
Doesn't anyone allow for an unexpected start in the SEC by a freshman quarterback? Dude!
Posted on 4/1/09 at 11:57 am to Akit1
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Still aggravates me how many morons booed the guy.
figs, all figs, and I don't mean homosexuals ... I mean the lowest possible denominator of barely-able-to-recoginized-as-a-homo-sapien-faggetty-arse-bitch!
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