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re: My assessment of footbal schedule 2010
Posted on 4/20/10 at 8:39 am to ottothewise
Posted on 4/20/10 at 8:39 am to ottothewise
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there is no direction pointed to by a record.
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Ole Miss was a LSU coaching blunder
Why do some fans continue this line? In 2008 OM mauled LSU in BR, their play on the OL and DL made LSU look like a division II program that day. Fast forward to 2009, OM controlled the vast majority of the game and again outplayed LSU upfront. It was a stroke of fortune LSU was even in position to have an attempt to win at the end, the game was poorly coached from the beginning, not just at the end. The SEC record the last two years is what it is, which is very lackluster.
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Posted on 4/20/10 at 8:54 am to dutchtowntiger100
-UNC = Win only due to North Carolina's terrible QB. Their defense, while very good, is overrated in my opinion. We win on the leg of Josh Jasper.
-Vandy = Win, but close. Much like last year's Miss. St game.
-Miss. St = Very close, hard fought win.
-West Virginia = Loss. Noel Devine goes DMAC (2007) on us.
-Tennessee = Win only due to Tennessee's young, inexperienced offensive line.
-Florida = Ugly loss. Brantley lights us up. Gator's win by 14.
-McNeese = win.
-ULM = win.
-Auburn = loss. AU beats us by 10.
-Alabama =
. I think we know the answer to that one.
-Ole Miss = very close win.
-Arkansas = Mallett torches us. Loss.
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-Vandy = Win, but close. Much like last year's Miss. St game.
-Miss. St = Very close, hard fought win.
-West Virginia = Loss. Noel Devine goes DMAC (2007) on us.
-Tennessee = Win only due to Tennessee's young, inexperienced offensive line.
-Florida = Ugly loss. Brantley lights us up. Gator's win by 14.
-McNeese = win.
-ULM = win.
-Auburn = loss. AU beats us by 10.
-Alabama =
. I think we know the answer to that one. -Ole Miss = very close win.
-Arkansas = Mallett torches us. Loss.
7-5
This post was edited on 4/20/10 at 8:55 am
Posted on 4/20/10 at 9:24 am to lsu mike
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Just sit back and wait until mid october when the ship is going down faster than the Titantic. You will see these miles lovin dreamers calling for his head faster, louder, and more than anyone else on this board.
....or they will blame the "unappreciative fans" for adding extra pressure on him.
This post was edited on 4/20/10 at 9:26 am
Posted on 4/20/10 at 10:21 am to tirebiter
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Why do some fans continue this line? In 2008 OM mauled LSU in BR, their play on the OL and DL made LSU look like a division II program that day. Fast forward to 2009, OM controlled the vast majority of the game and again outplayed LSU upfront. It was a stroke of fortune LSU was even in position to have an attempt to win at the end, the game was poorly coached from the beginning, not just at the end.
Very simple answer's to all. One 2009 is not 2008. different year. If that's not the case and it's the same then why even play 2010? why did we play in 2008 if 2008 was going to be the same as 2007?
if lsu was totally outplayed, dominated up front, and out coached, then how were they in position to win the game? you say a stroke of good fortune, however, what kind of fortune was it to lose the game? bad fortune? your answer would be coaching. therefore, was it coaching that got lsu in the position to win? of course not, your answer would be luck. i'm sure you can't see the flawed contradictory analogy.
the fact is, lsu was in josh jaspers range to kick a field goal that could win the game. a sack took them out. could be considered coaching, however, most liked the screen that got them in position in the first place. what was that?
Second, they got into position again with jefferson's pass to the five with one second left. the reason a second play was not run or a fg not attempted was due to the coach not calling the play or instructing the fg team to run on the field. therefore, the conclusion we lost the game due to a coaching blunder.
Posted on 4/20/10 at 11:26 am to dos crystal
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if lsu was totally outplayed, dominated up front, and out coached, then how were they in position to win the game? you say a stroke of good fortune, however, what kind of fortune was it to lose the game? bad fortune? your answer would be coaching. therefore, was it coaching that got lsu in the position to win? of course not, your answer would be luck. i'm sure you can't see the flawed contradictory analogy.
There is no analogy, other than Nutt let LSU hang around at the end.
2009
OM TOP 33:36, LSU 26:24, LSU loses TOP yet again
OM Net Rushing 193, LSU 40, woo LSU getting it done on the ground again....
OM total offense 426, LSU 290
In 2008 it was worse, LSU put up a whopping 37 net rushing yards vs OM and was outgained almost 2:1 by OM in total offense, they were totally dominated up front until OM got bored late in the game and called off the dogs.
What do you not understand about being dominated on the field in two successive games by a lesser talented program and OM controlling the clock 7+ minutes longer than LSU 2009????? Analogy my arse, make up some more useless commentary about coaching getting LSU back in the game, the final score was zero indication as to how OM outplayed LSU that day.
Posted on 4/20/10 at 11:32 am to dos crystal
Hey dos crystal....you said only Bama and Arky will have more proven QB. I hate to say it but our QB has proven nothing so your statement makes no sense
Posted on 4/20/10 at 11:48 am to gxtigs1
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I hate to say it but our QB has proven nothing so your statement makes no sense
opinion
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Hey dos crystal....you said only Bama and Arky will have more proven QB
fact
if you want to win a debate, support your point with useful information.
This post was edited on 4/20/10 at 11:50 am
Posted on 4/20/10 at 12:10 pm to tirebiter
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There is no analogy, other than Nutt let LSU hang around at the end.
so was he outcoached? if he let them hang around, what are you saying? he did a worse job than miles? he wanted to give us a chance to win?
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2009
OM TOP 33:36, LSU 26:24, LSU loses TOP yet again
OM Net Rushing 193, LSU 40, woo LSU getting it done on the ground again....
OM total offense 426, LSU 290
i guess they don't have special teams in football? why punt, kick fg's, block kicks and return for t.d.'s, return kicks and punts if they don't count?
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What do you not understand about being dominated on the field in two successive games by a lesser talented program and OM controlling the clock 7+ minutes longer than LSU 2009?????
ahhh, Michael Oher, they wrote a movie about him, Peria Jerry, John Jerry, hardy, mccluster, tillman, sneed, powe. compare their draft status vs lsu players last year and this year. i think you will find your statement is false. ole miss had the better talent. a hard fact most lsu fan's don't want to face. Ole miss has had the better o-line and d-line the past two years. i think it changes this year much like it did from 2007 to 2008. this time for the better. why? i have stated the attrition with miles first two classes compared to the last three.
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Analogy my arse, make up some more useless commentary about coaching getting LSU back in the game, the final score was zero indication as to how OM outplayed LSU that day.
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There is no analogy, other than Nutt let LSU hang around at the end.
isn't these two statements confusing? nutt let lsu hang around but useless commentary about coaching letting lsu back in the game? how did they get back in it if they were outcoached and dominated? how did lsu have an opportunity to win? it's not coaching, it's not the play of the players, then what is it? And you think i'm the one with useless commentary?
Posted on 4/20/10 at 12:19 pm to dutchtowntiger100
Your optimism is inspiring but I am not convinced. 
Posted on 4/20/10 at 12:23 pm to Springlake Tiger
Hope springs eternal. Yes Virginia there IS A SANTA CLAUS. 
Posted on 4/20/10 at 12:23 pm to dagotiger
fair enough. we don't have to agree. i can respect that. like your post. no inflamatory statements about our coach, a player, or myself.
This post was edited on 4/20/10 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 4/20/10 at 12:30 pm to AlwysATgr
Couldn't be any closer than last year. 
Posted on 4/20/10 at 12:32 pm to SouthernMan
Are you SERIOUS? 
Posted on 4/20/10 at 12:35 pm to TigerinSoCal
Maybe he IS a Bama lurker.
Posted on 4/20/10 at 12:42 pm to dos crystal
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i guess they don't have special teams in football? why punt, kick fg's, block kicks and return for t.d.'s, return kicks and punts if they don't count?
Oh, so LSU got pounded all game then turned up the special teams for a near win?
Oher and PJ were gone in 2009, Sneed was a below average QB in 2009, keep it up.
Posted on 4/20/10 at 12:57 pm to tirebiter
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Oher and PJ were gone in 2009, Sneed was a below average QB in 2009, keep it up.
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In 2008 OM mauled LSU in BR, their play on the OL and DL made LSU look like a division II program that day.
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are these not your quotes? use 2008 to your benefit but exclude it when it doesn't?
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Oh, so LSU got pounded all game then turned up the special teams for a near win?
did we not block a f.g. and return it for a t.d.?
looking like a fool with yo pants on the ground!
Posted on 4/20/10 at 1:15 pm to dos crystal
I recall two LSU attempted onsides kicks as well and OM still won. Special teams didn't save the day for LSU, did they? Losing two 1st rounders off OM's OL and DL should have helped LSU in 2009, as well as going against a QB who ranked 72nd nationally in passing efficiency and threw a whopping 20 picks. Your claim of an OM overall talent advantage is questionable although I give McCluster credit as the best player on the field that game.
Posted on 4/20/10 at 2:05 pm to tirebiter
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Special teams didn't save the day for LSU, did they?
Nope
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back to the beginning
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Ole Miss was a LSU coaching blunder
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Why do some fans continue this line?
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lsu was in josh jaspers range to kick a field goal that could win the game. a sack took them out.
Second, they got into position again with jefferson's pass to the five with one second left. the reason a second play was not run or a fg not attempted was due to the coach not calling the play or instructing the fg team to run on the field. therefore, the conclusion we lost the game due to a coaching blunder.
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Losing two 1st rounders off OM's OL and DL should have helped LSU in 2009
it did, the game was much closer and lsu had a chance to win on the road vs getting dominated at home.
lastly,
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Your claim of an OM overall talent advantage is questionable although I give McCluster credit as the best player on the field that game.
how many 1st rounders lsu had last year? In two days we'll find out about this year.
i think you realize it looks like ole miss will have more top talent than lsu has had over the past two years. Therefore, they were the better team those two years. talent is cyclical and lsu may have more over the next one, two, three, ect years. if so, miles doesn't look so dumb.
Posted on 4/20/10 at 4:01 pm to dos crystal
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i think you realize it looks like ole miss will have more top talent than lsu has had over the past two years.
Maybe at 4-5 positions and QB was a wash as Sneed was bad. How many games did Hardy miss? Powe and PJ were better than any LSU DL, Oher better than any OL, Hardy was good when he wasn't injured and McCluster was a game changer when Nutt gave him enough touches, that leaves a lot of positions where LSU had better/deeper talent that did not translate into results on the field.
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