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re: My assessment of footbal schedule 2010
Posted on 4/15/10 at 1:22 pm to coachjude
Posted on 4/15/10 at 1:22 pm to coachjude
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and miles admited he screwed up and fixed it for the arky game.
by blowing a 14 point lead against an unranked team AT HOME and having to kick a field goal to put into overtime?? btw, thank you Trindon Holliday for your punt return td that game. while i'm at it, thank you Chad Jones for single handedly bailing us out at MSU.
p.s. thank you for running that brilliant middle screen as time was running out in the Capital One Bowl. that was a great call, considering BOTH TEAMS struggled so much with the shitty turf.
signed,
Joe Paterno
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Posted on 4/15/10 at 1:35 pm to SouthernMan
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JJ was NOT a second year starter,
I didn't say he was. I said Miles SHOULD HAVE been fine with a 2nd year starter that he developed in 2008, but unfortunately, he pissed away 2008 not developing anybody and had another 1st year starter in 2009.
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If JJ and the offense is not improved this year then you have a point
How generous of you. So, if we finish 111th in the nation, everything is still fine, I guess.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 1:38 pm to dgnx6
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Why do you think we recruit top recruits year in and year out?
God only knows. It seems a waste of time, given that we don't do shite with them.
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The d was shite in 08 got better in 09 and dont see any reason it wont be better in 10.
Losing over half our starters would be one reason. Being too small to stop any decent power running game would be another.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 1:44 pm to ottothewise
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there is no direction pointed to by a record.
bullshite.
Against UF, Bama, Ole Miss and Arkie, we are 1-7 over the past two years. Over the three years prior to that, we were 10-2. If you don't see a direction there, you're blind.
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Arky had a great player when they won in OT.
A great player? ONE great player? That's what it takes to knock off the national champions on their home field?
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Ole Miss was a LSU coaching blunder
Ole Miss was a game we got outplayed and dominated in the fourth quarter. Then we got a miracle to give us a chance we didn't deserve. THEN the coaching blunder wasted it.
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UF was referees.
bullshite. Yes, they got away with one on the TD. If they kick a FG instead, they win 9-3. If they NEED more points (due to not getting that TD), they score whatever they need. We were not close to winning that game, and that call was irrelevant.
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Bama relied on foot scrape not being called correctly. Although it doesnt appear LSU could do ANYTHING after that, perhaps if they had the ball they would have been energized by the takeaway.
Pure speculation and bullshite. We did nothing on offense after the Ridley TD. If that TD didn't energize us, then PP's interception wouldn't have, either. We had no offense, and we were playing the best defense in the country. Getting a turnover at our own 40 or so would not have won that game.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 1:52 pm to coachjude
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Has anyone in recent history had a QB running the show with less than a year in a half in their college career produce better than 9 wins other than TEBOW.......
How many did Texas win when Colt McCoy was a freshman? Wasn't Matt Leinart a sophomore at USC in 2003?
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see what he can do with an experience QB running the show.
He had a quarterback with almost a full year of starting experience, plus a redshirt year before that, going into 2009. He was so well developed by Miles and his staff that he couldn't beat out Jordan Jefferson for the starting job.
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he is only one game worse than the TD proclaim god and savior NICK SATAN
Given where they started from, it's unforgivable that it's even close between them, let alone that Miles is actually BEHIND.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 1:56 pm to coachjude
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how about players making plays.....A SEC QB REALIZING THAT OH I HAVE ONE SECOND I SHOULD THROW IT UP NOT SPIKE. Some things u cant coach.
True. Some things you have to recruit for. If we have bad players, that's the coach's fault.
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everything would be different if we wouldnt have lost a Junior QB and had to start over with freshmen.....
No, we lost a junior, then had to start over with a freshman, then wasted 2008 not developing him, and then had to start over with a sophomore. The RP excuse expired after the 2008 Peach Bowl. Any use of it after that is just bullshite Miles rationalizing.
This post was edited on 4/15/10 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 4/15/10 at 1:57 pm to drexyl
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right because Nuts4LSU is so accurate in his assessment of a head football coach.
I was right about Stovall, Archer, Hallman, DiNardo, Brady, Laval...but maybe I'll be wrong this time. Let's hope so.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 2:02 pm to coachjude
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Leak finished his freshman year with a Southeastern Conference record for a freshman going 6-3 as a starter
Tommy Hodson was 9-3 as a starter his freshman year in 1986, leading LSU to an SEC title. Danny Wuerffel led Florida to an SEC title as a freshman in 1993. Herb Tyler was 4-0 as a starter in his freshman year of 1995. Jamarcus Russell was 4-0 as a stater in his freshman year of 2004. What SEC record did Leak set?
Posted on 4/15/10 at 2:07 pm to coachjude
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referring to Jefferson......if he doesnt not produce this year and helps to make the offense better than we have a serious problem at QBcoach and with JJ.
Then why doesn't the same logic apply with Jarrett Lee? He was in the same position experience-wise going into 2009 as Jefferson is this year. The fact that he still wasn't producing in 2009 didn't mean anything, but it suddenly will if Jefferson doesn't this year? What's the difference?
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If you remember right the past quarterback who had success at LSU had atleast 2 years experience in the program till they had to perform
Like Tommy Hodson (SEC title as RS Freshman) and Herb Tyler (14-2 as starter in true Freshman and Sophomore seasons)?
This post was edited on 4/15/10 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 4/15/10 at 2:10 pm to coachjude
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give me a break the program is not in a decline we won two national championships in the last 8 years.....any program would love to win it once or even be close in that period.
Washington DC has had more snow in the past three months than in the past five years combined. But it's still getting warmer.
You are like the person who falls off a cliff and, halfway down, thinks "so far, so good!".
Posted on 4/15/10 at 2:14 pm to Nuts4LSU
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You are like the person who falls off a cliff and, halfway down, thinks "so far, so good!".
holy hell that's funny!
kinda like the gay man who comes out of the closet after 10 years of marriage with three kids, only to have the family say "but you were married for ten years". NO, the dude was a fruit the whole freakin' time!!!
This post was edited on 4/15/10 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 4/19/10 at 9:34 am to AlwysATgr
You are catching WVU at a good time. New QB. True freshman last year who played very little. Broke his foot and cannot compete in spring ball.
So WVU will rely on Noel Devine. A steady diet of him, plus a huge tailback n/s runner as a mix up.
If you can stop the run there likely will not be any issues.
The defense returns nearly everyone and should be tough. WVU runs an unusual 3-3-5 which sends blitz people from every direction. An undisciplined oline can get your qb killed.
WVU's 3 down linemen all return and are all tough.
if healthy they can make running the ball inside difficult. WVU's weakness on defense is against precision passing teams and stopping quick outside runners.
So WVU will rely on Noel Devine. A steady diet of him, plus a huge tailback n/s runner as a mix up.
If you can stop the run there likely will not be any issues.
The defense returns nearly everyone and should be tough. WVU runs an unusual 3-3-5 which sends blitz people from every direction. An undisciplined oline can get your qb killed.
WVU's 3 down linemen all return and are all tough.
if healthy they can make running the ball inside difficult. WVU's weakness on defense is against precision passing teams and stopping quick outside runners.
Posted on 4/19/10 at 11:07 am to NOLAeer
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WVU runs an unusual 3-3-5 which sends blitz people from every direction. An undisciplined oline can get your qb killed.
Oh great. Well, on the bright side, if 6,387,224 career sacks hasn't killed him yet, I doubt West Virginia can in one game.
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WVU's weakness on defense is against precision passing teams and stopping quick outside runners.
Well, then the Jordan Jefferson surgical strike offense should be fine.
Posted on 4/19/10 at 11:29 am to TheBaker
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by blowing a 14 point lead against an unranked team AT HOME and having to kick a field goal to put into overtime?? btw, thank you Trindon Holliday for your punt return td that game.
boy, i guess florida sucked last year too. that same team had to miss fg after fg to lose on the gators home turf.
Posted on 4/19/10 at 11:31 am to Nuts4LSU
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Teams lose their starting quarterbacks all the time. I would bet that the majority of regular starting quarterbacks in college football in any given year are in their 2nd year of starting or earlier. It's NORMAL to have a quarterback who hasn't started very much.
signed,
bob stoops. boy, their season turned out well once bradford went down. why didn't he have the other guy developed?
Posted on 4/19/10 at 11:40 am to Nuts4LSU
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Why do you think we recruit top recruits year in and year out?
God only knows. It seems a waste of time, given that we don't do shite with them.
yet
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"he inherited a powerhouse and rode it for three years to a 34-6 record."
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contradiction? if he can't coach talent how did he go 34-6 with a n.c.?
Posted on 4/19/10 at 3:47 pm to Nuts4LSU
NUTS, you are just pissing in the wind tyring to use reasonable logic to make sense for some of these guys. They are still hung up on 2007 thinking "the great Miles" will be in contention every year and worth every cent he is paid. Just sit back and wait until mid october when the ship is going down faster than the Titantic. You will see these miles lovin dreamers calling for his head faster, louder, and more than anyone else on this board. 
Posted on 4/19/10 at 4:38 pm to lsu mike
And if the ship doesn't go down Nostradamus?
it isn't a love or hate miles issue. It's a fan believing in their team. So, in your opinion, i should believe my team will fail?
I can give plenty of "logical" reasons why the team is and what they are not. However, that logic is only as good as those who want to beleive. guy's like you and nuts will "only" believe it's miles. you're blinded by hate. i was just pointing out how flawed the statements he made are.
could it be, i know it can't, but lets look at a possibility outside of miles is dumb and lsu sucks because of him.
Could it be that miles actually did well and had unprecedented success when he had great talent. he had to coach that talent. However, since 2004, although he has recruited the states best, the state hasn't produced another dorsey, k williams, m hill, whitworth, wroten, spears, rudy n. ect.
a coach is only as good as his talent. it's no secret saban had the same record as shula the year he replaced him. 6-6. the reason he improved the next two year was due to his ability to get ingram, cody, mcclain, jones ect.
miles recruiting classes have been improved the last three years over his first two. His first two have had a lot of attrition, particulary to the offensive line. (loadholt, z thomas, singleton, ect.) in 2008 we started an offensive line with one louisiana player on. what's that tell you?
i believe this is the most talented team miles has fielded since 2007. it's the first year neither the offense or defense is having to deal with a coordinator change. This is also the only year since 2007 we will have a qb who started the prior season. for all these reasons, i believe the team will be better, not worse.
saban is the gold standard of coaches. however, his genius didn't show when he came out of the timeout, against lsu, on the 15 yard line, with 12 men in the huddle. His genius didn't show when he faked a punt on his own 25 yard line in the n.c. game. He makes bone headed decisions just like every coach. he's been fortunate to over come them. I mean, it was pure genius colt mccoy didn't play for three quarters.
it isn't a love or hate miles issue. It's a fan believing in their team. So, in your opinion, i should believe my team will fail?
I can give plenty of "logical" reasons why the team is and what they are not. However, that logic is only as good as those who want to beleive. guy's like you and nuts will "only" believe it's miles. you're blinded by hate. i was just pointing out how flawed the statements he made are.
could it be, i know it can't, but lets look at a possibility outside of miles is dumb and lsu sucks because of him.
Could it be that miles actually did well and had unprecedented success when he had great talent. he had to coach that talent. However, since 2004, although he has recruited the states best, the state hasn't produced another dorsey, k williams, m hill, whitworth, wroten, spears, rudy n. ect.
a coach is only as good as his talent. it's no secret saban had the same record as shula the year he replaced him. 6-6. the reason he improved the next two year was due to his ability to get ingram, cody, mcclain, jones ect.
miles recruiting classes have been improved the last three years over his first two. His first two have had a lot of attrition, particulary to the offensive line. (loadholt, z thomas, singleton, ect.) in 2008 we started an offensive line with one louisiana player on. what's that tell you?
i believe this is the most talented team miles has fielded since 2007. it's the first year neither the offense or defense is having to deal with a coordinator change. This is also the only year since 2007 we will have a qb who started the prior season. for all these reasons, i believe the team will be better, not worse.
saban is the gold standard of coaches. however, his genius didn't show when he came out of the timeout, against lsu, on the 15 yard line, with 12 men in the huddle. His genius didn't show when he faked a punt on his own 25 yard line in the n.c. game. He makes bone headed decisions just like every coach. he's been fortunate to over come them. I mean, it was pure genius colt mccoy didn't play for three quarters.
Posted on 4/19/10 at 4:41 pm to Springlake Tiger
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we destroy them W
Dooley outcoached Miles the entire game last year.
Posted on 4/20/10 at 6:30 am to Paul Allen
Sad but true ^ 
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