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re: Move Laird down in the lineup if he doesnt hit well this weekend
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:46 am to redfieldk717
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:46 am to redfieldk717
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in the conference it aint great.
it aint terrible either
its definitely below average and too low for a 2 hole hitter.
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:48 am to bbap
I guess you just keep trying to correct me without really reading my post. Where did I say to leave him in the 2 hole? When I say I think he is playing up to his role on the team, I am not saying he is the only option in the 2 hole. I am saying that as a true freshman, that is defense first outfielder that is able to utilize his speed to get on base and score some runs he is doing his job.
They have played 42 games. 18 SEC and 24 non conference. How are SEC stats the only ones that matter?
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SEC stats (which is all that matters at this point)
They have played 42 games. 18 SEC and 24 non conference. How are SEC stats the only ones that matter?Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:49 am to PurpleAndGold86
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They have played 42 games. 18 SEC and 24 non conference. How are SEC stats the only ones that matter?
because going forward they will play nothing but SEC opponents or SEC caliber opponents outside of what... 3 midweek games i guess? That's why.
eta: checked schedule, looks like only 2 midweek games left.
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 10:51 am
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:51 am to bbap
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because going forward they will play nothing but SEC opponents or SEC caliber opponents outside of what
Wrong. They aren't exactly getting paired with 3 top 10 teams when they host a Regional at the Box.
I love it when people only use less than half of the season to try and make their point that a kid isn't playing his part on the team.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:52 am to PurpleAndGold86
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:54 am to PurpleAndGold86
its not wrong. they may MAY get one game in a regional against a team that sucks but that's it.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:56 am to PurpleAndGold86
The only thing about him being the fastest on team is it doesn't matter that much because sciambra(sp) has plus speed and mcmuffin is very fast, as is Stevenson. I'm not saying take him out of the line up, but his speed isn't as big a deal as it would be for some other years like last year.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:59 am to bbap
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they may MAY get one game in a regional against a team that sucks but that's it.
This is one of the Regional Projections that I see from last week:
Baton Rouge Regional
Host: LSU {3}
1. LSU 34-3 #4 (SEC at large)
4. Texas-Arlington 20-15 #123 (WAC Auto)
2. Virginia Tech 22-15 #12 (ACC at large)
3. Southeastern Louisiana 24-13 #70 (SLC Auto)
I didn't know that UT Arlington was a baseball powerhouse that was going to shut us down.
Say V Tech beats SLU. Are you saying Laird can only hit agaisnt teams with sub .500 records? You don't think he is capable of hitting a couple of V Techs pitchers despite having a batting average over .350 just a few weeks ago?
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:03 am to PurpleAndGold86
VT is a pretty good team with an RPI of 15. You just proved my point. Sure LSU might get a sucky 4 seed but that's not even a given. Lots of 4 seeds have one good pitcher.
quote:It's somewhat unlikely based on what he's done so far. That's a long way from now though.
Are you saying Laird can only hit agaisnt teams with sub .500 records? You don't think he is capable of hitting a couple of V Techs pitchers despite having a batting average over .350 just a few weeks ago?
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:06 am to bbap
i've only seen him bat about 3 times out of 70 plate appearances since he bunts every other time. And he is not a particularly good bunter.
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 11:08 am
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:07 am to bbap
This dicsussion is a waste of time running around in circles. Clearly you don't think Laird is playing up to his role on the team as a true freshman because you are looking at an 18 game slate out of 42.
The fact is the if you look at the season you are crazy if you say he isn't playing up to his role. In the SEC he has clearly struggled. I think PM should explore other options with the lineup and decide if moving him down to the 8/9 hole might re-ignite the offense because of his struggle to handle the SEC pitching he has faced.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:08 am to PurpleAndGold86
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Clearly you don't think Laird is playing up to his role on the team as a true freshman because you are looking at an 18 game slate out of 42.
let's not put words in my mouth. all i said was he needs to bat 9th, but only if PM has someone in mind that he thinks will be suitable at 2.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:10 am to bbap
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all i said was he needs to bat 9th, but only if PM has someone in mind that he thinks will be suitable at 2.
Ok so you have been arguing with me and trying to tell me to look at his SEC stats in an attempt to prove me wrong when we are in complete 100% agreement.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:11 am to PurpleAndGold86
i think i brought up the sec stats in reference to saying he's a hole in the lineup right now (and you saying he's not). I'd have to go back and look.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:20 am to PurpleAndGold86
I don't advocate removing him from the lineup, but the deal is this is college baseball. Sure the bats have been downgraded, but these guys still face college pitchers, most of whom will never even sniff the minors. With all of that, regardless of OBP, runs scored, etc. (all of which have plummeted for Laird during SEC play), the kid simply hits nothing hard. Even Jones and Ross, with their mediocre averages, will smash some balls. Laird dribbles the ball into the infield and relies on his speed to get on base. He is no threat otherwise. That's not useless and he's an asset, but he has limited offensive baseball talent. Kid needs to hit the weights hard during the offseason.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:21 am to bbap
remember, he came from football walk-on wr to play ball for p.m.
tuned for speed. yes, i believe weight room will help, but for now, use his talents.
oh, i believe pm know ml's talents.
tuned for speed. yes, i believe weight room will help, but for now, use his talents.
oh, i believe pm know ml's talents.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 11:24 am to bbap
No need to go back and look. That is when you brought it up. Maybe our definition of hole is slightly different. Kid is struggling for sure in the SEC. I get that and agree with you if you were to say that. I think he is a very talented true freshman that is struggling to hit some of the best pitching in the entire country. I don't think that means he is a hole. IMO that just means he needs to make adjustments and he will get better. Holes are more like some of the guys we had last season.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 12:42 pm to JackAttack
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JackAttack
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And here come the best little coaches of TD with their awesome philosophies that got them no where.
People like you really just suck. Why even post if you have nothing to say other than that? You probably don't know the first thing about baseball yet you still come here and say some stupid shite like that.
frickING BAN
With that outbid my system, I think that this
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tuned for speed. yes, i believe weight room will help, but for now, use his talents.
Was a very good analysis. The guy weighs about 160? Give or take a few lbs.
Give him a year or so to take some coaching add on a few pounds get stronger and then we'll see what he can really do. This guy has the opportunity to be special with his speed.
I've noticed something about his at-bats though, a lot of times he doesn't look comfortable at the plate. Maybe that is because he's a freshman and still getting used to it. But he looks so uncomfortable up there that he's bailing out big time when he swings, right now his bat isn't covering much of the plate. Right now he is playing because of his speed and his defense ability.
Give him a summer to gain some weight and get a few more ab's in a summer league and we'll see a whole new Laird next year.
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:24 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
I agree with you guys who think he needs to be moved to the 9 hole. He's not that good of a hitter, he steps out when he swings every time. I think I've seen him hit maybe 3 balls hard all year long.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 3:06 pm to bbap
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This discussion is a waste of time running around in circles.
This, although y'all are arguing SOME valid points I think you both agree he has struggled to some degree against tougher schedule.
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all i said was he needs to bat 9th, but only if PM has someone in mind that he thinks will be suitable at 2.
This is the real discussion point fellas. I've already said I don't like Raph or Ibarra here.
What about Sciambra in the 2 and Laird in the 9 hole?
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