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Mondo's decision to represent Sweden and why it's the most practical decision

Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:35 pm
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
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Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:35 pm
Since there are suddenly a lot of T&F experts every Olympic/World Championship cycle, I figured I'd shed some light into why even though his decision to represent Sweden is definitely financial, but the most practical decision for his career.

Getting these out the way. Yes there are:
More people that care in Sweden/Europe than the US (that's an American problem)
More opportunities outside of the US (another American problem)
Coaching positions for his parents to help him at professional meets/championship competition (USATF problem)
No national trials meet before the Olympics (USATF problem again, also stupid to risk injury in a sport where you need to be 100% at all times)

Here are some reasons why it would've been a bad decision to join Team USA:
USATF is picky about who is on their payroll. From my understanding, USATF did not want to pay for Greg (his father) to be part of the organization and foot any bills for Greg to help coach Mondo in competition. Greg has flown on his own dime to help out Mondo at times, but Sweden also has given Mondo the autonomy to have him as his coach at all competitions. This includes Sweden helping fund trips for championship competition (Worlds/Olympics) and that's a cost saver there.

Training and living in Sweden reduces travel time and expenses for meets that are go on in that side of the world, particularly the Diamond League events. You have:
Stockholm
Doha
Monaco
Paris
London
Zurich
Lausanne
Rome
Shanghai
Brussels
The two North American meets? Eugene & New York City

Believe it or not, the athletes do not have an organization to fund all of their trips every single time. Part of that comes from their dealers with their agents. Agents will set up the trip and its basically the athlete's responsibility to pay them back by winning OR helping pay with an appearance fee. An appearance is paid to athletes to come to big meets so that the stadiums have someone to see. Even then, agents are still taking a cut from athletes like Mondo.

Training in Sweden is way easier than training in Louisiana. Great year round weather + paid physio staff + access to the track when he wants are all something that would come at another cost/be more difficult to obtain in the US, specifically Louisiana since he will be training with his parents.

His brand is 1000000x easier to spread in Europe. Red Bull (Austria), Omega (Switzerland), Polestar (Sweden) are some of his top sponsors outside of his primary apparel sponsor Puma (Germany), which all appeal to his Swedish side. He absolutely could have gotten deals here in the US to help supplement his career, but very likely would not come anywhere close to what he's making now.

People saying he's denouncing his citizenship need to get a damn grip. The US and USATF would not have done a damn thing to help further his career anywhere close to what Sweden has done for him since he joined their junior team. It's crazy to fault a guy for making the best decision for himself when the other decision was to "mUh AmErIcA".
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:36 pm to
Any American LSU fan should be proud of him winning Gold. He is a great Tiger
Posted by Tangineck
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2017
2356 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:41 pm to
The haters would make the same choice he did if they were presented with the same opportunity and all the facts that influenced it.
Posted by RosyFinchBOYZ
Member since Oct 2017
426 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:44 pm to
Plus he becomes a Swedish hero and can use that to pull Swedish women. Sounds practical to me.
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
11402 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:45 pm to
I was pulling for him. Glad he won the Gold and don’t care either way if it was for Sweden or the US.
Posted by TigerBogue
Red State, USA
Member since May 2006
895 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:47 pm to
Good explanation and thanks for trying to be the voice of reason. The “once every four years” quarterbacks still won’t get it!
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
8881 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:56 pm to
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The US and USATF would not have done a damn thing to help further his career

The USATF only concerns itself with sprints. USA has arguably the best shot putter in the world the last 10 years and you won’t hear a blip about him but for three days every four years.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
10263 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

It's crazy to fault a guy for making the best decision for himself when the other decision was to "mUh AmErIcA


Freedom of choice diesn't doesn't mean freedom from consequences-in this case, lots of people who supported him before anyone knew his name turning on him.

Life is series of trade-offs. I don't give a rat's arse about him OR Ben Simmons. LSU, even America, is just a means to an end for some people
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
7324 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:02 pm to
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Training in Sweden is way easier than training in Louisiana. [embed]Great year round weather[/embed]
What? Winter is cold. And dark. And can get snowy. Nov, Dec, and Jan they only average a few hours of sunlight a day. And thats for the southern areas (like Stockholm). The further north you get the worse it gets.

In any case he trains in the US/Louisiana during the winter months.
Posted by Naptime
Member since Sep 2020
2202 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:03 pm to
Finally someone with some sense!!!
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:04 pm to
For a more recent comparison, JuVaughn Harrison DOMINATED High Jump and Long Jump in college. Becoming the first man since JIM THORPE in 1912 to go to the Olympics and do both of those events for the USA. Got 2nd at the World Championships in 2023 in High Jump.

His deal he signed with Puma isn't in the six figure range.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103945 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:05 pm to
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Coaching positions for his parents to help him at professional meets/championship competition (USATF problem)
This I wholeheartedly disagree with. USATF can’t put every parent of gold medal hopefuls on the payroll

We have too many.

Makes sense for Sweden to do it. It doesn’t for America

quote:

Training in Sweden is way easier than training in Louisiana. Great year round weather
This is also crazy. Overall our year round weather is far better for training. Yes summer is hot but you can fully train outdoors all year here. You simply can’t train outdoors for 3 months there

The simple answer is Mondo thought it was best. That’s all that matters. It’s all a facade that the actual athletes are commenting for country at the games.
This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 9:09 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86688 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:12 pm to
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This is also crazy. Overall our year round weather is far better for training. Yes summer is hot but you can fully train outdoors all year here. You simply can’t train outdoors for 3 months there
You think they don’t have an indoor facility? You think all those European meets are in a 3 month window? Not to mention they get 5-6 months of decent outdoor weather.

Average highs in the mid 60s from May to September

ETA: misread your last sentence. When a majority of the meets are in that 5-6 month window in Europe, there’s no reason to train in south Louisiana for pole vault of all places. That part would be crazy.
This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 9:18 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103945 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:16 pm to
Of course they have indoor facilities. But that isn’t outdoor training….

There is a reason why Mondo leaves Sweden to come back to America and train in the winter….
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86688 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:18 pm to
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There is a reason why Mondo leaves Sweden to come back to America and train in the winter…
I know he does. But it’s just a 3-4 month move.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103945 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:19 pm to
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I know he does. But it’s just a 3-4 month move.
He made a comment the “year round weather training in Sweden is better”. That’s just factually false

You can year round train indoor and outdoor in America for like vaulting

You can’t in Sweden.

And America isn’t just Louisiana….If he hates the heat go somewhere not hot in summer

Ell, you would never argue the year round weather in Montana is better than Louisiana for baseball training since the springs and summer are so nice would you?
This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
18334 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:38 pm to
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No national trials meet before the Olympics (USATF problem again

I am not one of those said experts. I always thought the trials was how athletes make the Olympics teams or earn a spot in the Olympics. How do other countries handle this? Just curious how this works
Posted by Naptime
Member since Sep 2020
2202 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:58 pm to
They go over their results for a couple of years instead of what they do in one day
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103945 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 10:09 pm to
That often backfires on those countries as well

Track and field results vary greatly over years. The us method is geared more to finding the best athlete at the time of the Olympics
Posted by Naptime
Member since Sep 2020
2202 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 10:11 pm to
And arguably the second best jumper in the world is from the USA and was left at home because he had a bad day. It definitely can work both ways.
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