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re: Mo Isom 3 day Kicker Tryout,if she makes the team....(updated with video)
Posted on 3/6/12 at 3:58 pm to fastedLSU
Posted on 3/6/12 at 3:58 pm to fastedLSU
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Now they are not compliant if females have the opportunity to play another scholarship sport. No matter what it is.
Right. So we let her on the team (if she can earn a spot), tell the t9 lesbians to get fricked and then we just do whatever the hell we want with our athletics program.
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
What you are showing is that a woman can play a men's sport
The argument being made is that men can't play a women's sport and yet a female can Play in a sport dedicated to men but a man can't go and play softball although there is no definition that says its a female only sport; that this isn't fair when it comes to scholarship and quota designation
The argument isn't that they can't or haven't played, it's that under the current system they shouldn't be able to
The argument being made is that men can't play a women's sport and yet a female can Play in a sport dedicated to men but a man can't go and play softball although there is no definition that says its a female only sport; that this isn't fair when it comes to scholarship and quota designation
The argument isn't that they can't or haven't played, it's that under the current system they shouldn't be able to
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:01 pm to fastedLSU
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Now they are not compliant if females have the opportunity to play another scholarship sport. No matter what it is.
So are you an NCAA Title IX compliance officer? Do you have training in this that can back this up? Or is this just an opinion you are stating as fact when you really don't know?
I'm thinking the latter.
there is precedense in this. We aren't the first school, and this is a tryout, she is not on the team yet. Everyone chill the frick out.
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:05 pm to ThePoo
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men but a man can't go and play softball although there is no definition that says its a female only
This is not a good analagy. There is a substitute for softball...baseball. Or rather softball would be the substitute for baseball. There is no substitute for football. It is just football.
See my earlier comment about volleyball. There is men's volleyball other schools in the country, therefore a man at LSU should not be able to play for the women's team...if he wanted to play volleyball he should have gone somewhere else. I looked and don't see any rules saying football is for men only.
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:10 pm to TexasTiger1185
quote:but what if i never played baseball, grew up playing softball my entire life and dominated my peeps
There is a substitute for softball...baseball.
then you tell me in college i have to face pitchers that throw 90, from significantly farther away, with a small ball, longer base lines, bigger outfields, and different rules and techniques
Thats like saying racquetball is a replacement for tennis, because they both use rackets and balls
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:10 pm to TexasTiger1185
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So are you an NCAA Title IX compliance officer? Do you have training in this that can back this up? Or is this just an opinion you are stating as fact when you really don't know?
I'm thinking the latter.
there is precedense in this. We aren't the first school, and this is a tryout, she is not on the team yet. Everyone chill the frick out.
You're way off base. I dont have any problem with her trying out or being on the team.
My issue is with Title IX compliance. Thats how I read and interpreted what was posted and what was on the NCAAs website.
I just didnt understand how you can be in compliance one day, add a sport for females, and still be in compliance after that.
LSU/SEC was fighting with Title IX hard in the early 2000s to get soccer back as a scholly sport. I was invested in and did a lot of research back then. I know a little but was also asking for clarification.
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:12 pm to ThePoo
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Thats like saying racquetball is a replacement for tennis, because they both use rackets and balls
The replacement sports don't have to be exact copies, a lot of schools use girls Volleyball to substitute Footbal
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:12 pm to ThePoo
Misogyny is alive and well, bitches!
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:14 pm to bbap
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if its killing off mens sports because of all the scholarships. its mens football.
Their legalistic minds can't grasp this. I actually thought of couple of them really understood the intent and effects of Title IX. Not so sure, now.
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:14 pm to Jester
you don't read, congrats
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:18 pm to ThePoo
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you don't read, congrats
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:19 pm to ThePoo
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but what if i never played baseball, grew up playing softball my entire life and dominated my peeps
then you tell me in college i have to face pitchers that throw 90, from significantly farther away, with a small ball, longer base lines, bigger outfields, and different rules and techniques
Thats like saying racquetball is a replacement for tennis, because they both use rackets and balls
Did you grow up a girl? No boy grows up playing softball. So your reaching really far trying to make a comparison that doesn't exist. Which is exactly my point, is there even a collegiate sport that women play that men don't also play?
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:19 pm to Tiger1242
The replacement sports don't have to be anything like the sport they are replacing, it is just an offsetting thing to comply with scholarship numbers
I think the point trying to be made was there is no female version of football and yet softball is regarded as the female version of baseball....which is totally wrong. Women's baseball is the female version of baseball
I think the point trying to be made was there is no female version of football and yet softball is regarded as the female version of baseball....which is totally wrong. Women's baseball is the female version of baseball
This post was edited on 3/6/12 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:20 pm to Navytiger74
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Their legalistic minds can't grasp this. I actually thought of couple of them really understood the intent and effects of Title IX. Not so sure, now.
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:21 pm to fastedLSU
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fastedLSU
I went back and read again...I see what you're saying.
I'm not sure but since she won't be getting a scholarship is this even really an issue? I don't know...Now we have Mascona talking about it on 104.5
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:22 pm to TexasTiger1185
quote:can't say i know many girls that grew up playing tackle football or baseball, beyond little league
Did you grow up a girl? No boy grows up playing softball. So your reaching really far trying to make a comparison that doesn't exist.
what's your point
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:22 pm to ThePoo
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softball is regarded as the female version of baseball....which is totally wrong. Women's baseball is the female version of baseball
So we aren't talking about NCAA anymore?
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:22 pm to ThePoo
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The argument isn't that they can't or haven't played, it's that under the current system they shouldn't be able to
Based on circumstances, obviously the wrong interpretation. Is she gonna take a scholarship?
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Is she gonna take a scholarship?
Is she even able to? Hypothetically assuming that she is better than any of our current kickers on scholarship.
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:she doesn't have to, if she is on the team she is capable/has the ability to receive one whether she does or not
Is she gonna take a scholarship?
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