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re: Mingo makes history in Browns victory
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:12 pm to oldschoolgreats
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:12 pm to oldschoolgreats
quote:
is it mingo or is it chavis scheme.
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:17 pm to Jim Rockford
Geaux Mingo
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:27 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:That's some crappy writing. The way it's worded, he's only got one sack. I assume it should be "in each of his first three games."
to register a sack in his first three games.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:28 pm to Jim Rockford
Thanks for leaving us early.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:29 pm to KG5989
I don't care if he was playing out of his most natural position at LSU; he should have had a greater production. we palyed at least 6 below avg. teams last year. its hard to believe he was always double teamed with monty and logan etc. on defense.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:55 pm to Jim Rockford
LSU gets more love up here than you might think...
Posted on 9/30/13 at 2:30 pm to KG5989
quote:
Also, hes playing his natural position in the NFL. 3-4 OLB. At LSU, he played a 4-3 DE. Thats the biggest reason with his lack of production at LSU. Nobodys fault. Not his fault/ Chavis fault. Its just the style of D we run.
Sorta. We play a 4-3, but more a Miami style..lighter LBs and DEs...more speed. 3-4 is a bit better for him so he can line up and hit different gaps.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 2:36 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
we need the want
and some chest.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 2:51 pm to Alltheway Tigers!
Sorta?? Not sorta.
In the 4-3, Mingo had a hand in the dirt, and was right across the OT. Doesnt matter what "style" 4-3 we ran. He had a hand in the dirt and was a true DE.
In the 3-4 as an OLB, you can move around, play standing up, and get into more gaps than you can in the 4-3 as a DE.
In the 4-3, Mingo had a hand in the dirt, and was right across the OT. Doesnt matter what "style" 4-3 we ran. He had a hand in the dirt and was a true DE.
In the 3-4 as an OLB, you can move around, play standing up, and get into more gaps than you can in the 4-3 as a DE.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 3:04 pm to oldschoolgreats
Yea because Monty was such a force for us too and was always double teamed... 
Being double teamed as a DE is diff than being double teamed as a DT. Mingo would get an OT or TE and a RB/FB would come and help out on him. DT gets double teamed by 2 OL.
Playing in a 4-3 caused Mingo to put his hand in the dirt and play directly across from an OL. That pretty much takes his speed away from him. As soon as the ball is snapped, the OL was on him and engaged him because hes lined up right in front of him. Mingo isnt a bull rushing type of player. He is a player that needs to be in space to allow his to use his speed. a 3-4 OLB is perfect for him. He can use his speed and athleticism to get away from a blocker.
Regardless what you think, the type of system that a team runs directly impacts every player, especially when it comes to production. Mingo never said anything about his position, the coaches put him where he would best fit our D, and he played that spot and played very hard and was a huge asset to LSU. Hes 1 of those defensive players that other teams had to game plan for and know where he was at all times.
Sure, his sack total wasnt great. But, didnt he led the SEC is QB hurries for 2 seasons?? QBs and offenses were very aware of where he was lined up at all times and would get the ball out extremely fast.
oldschoolgreats...since you have such an issue with him, why do you think his production wasnt great at LSU??
Being double teamed as a DE is diff than being double teamed as a DT. Mingo would get an OT or TE and a RB/FB would come and help out on him. DT gets double teamed by 2 OL.
Playing in a 4-3 caused Mingo to put his hand in the dirt and play directly across from an OL. That pretty much takes his speed away from him. As soon as the ball is snapped, the OL was on him and engaged him because hes lined up right in front of him. Mingo isnt a bull rushing type of player. He is a player that needs to be in space to allow his to use his speed. a 3-4 OLB is perfect for him. He can use his speed and athleticism to get away from a blocker.
Regardless what you think, the type of system that a team runs directly impacts every player, especially when it comes to production. Mingo never said anything about his position, the coaches put him where he would best fit our D, and he played that spot and played very hard and was a huge asset to LSU. Hes 1 of those defensive players that other teams had to game plan for and know where he was at all times.
Sure, his sack total wasnt great. But, didnt he led the SEC is QB hurries for 2 seasons?? QBs and offenses were very aware of where he was lined up at all times and would get the ball out extremely fast.
oldschoolgreats...since you have such an issue with him, why do you think his production wasnt great at LSU??
Posted on 9/30/13 at 3:18 pm to oldschoolgreats
quote:
I don't care if he was playing out of his most natural position at LSU; he should have had a greater production. we palyed at least 6 below avg. teams last year. its hard to believe he was always double teamed with monty and logan etc. on defense.
You just have no idea what you are talking about, do you?
Posted on 9/30/13 at 6:45 pm to oldschoolgreats
quote:
I don't care if he was playing out of his most natural position at LSU; he should have had a greater production. we palyed at least 6 below avg. teams last year. its hard to believe he was always double teamed with monty and logan etc. on defense.
Dude how stupid can you be? Sam and Mingo might not have registered a ton of sacks last year (8 for Sam, 4.5 for Mingo), but they put on a ton of pressure and got in the backfield often. If you ever watched the games, Sam took up most of the double teams last year and it gave Mingo a chance to get disruptive.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 7:08 pm to CocoLoco
Add in next years Saints # 1 and you might get closer
Posted on 9/30/13 at 7:22 pm to sportjunkie69
quote:
I just wish we still had defensive players
Posted on 9/30/13 at 8:28 pm to Jim Rockford
That was awfully nice of his friend and fellow Tiger Andrew Whitworth to help Mingo make history by allowing him to sack Andy Dalton.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:45 pm to Jim Rockford
Ahhh "The Want."
Posted on 10/1/13 at 3:40 am to weinrib
Posted on 10/1/13 at 5:29 am to KG5989
What is wrong with you? This is the rant you can't provide good logical accurate explantions on here, it just not allowed. We much rather rant a bunch of blame on everyone players coaches fans it doesn't matter as long as we get our say.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 5:41 am to tigerprl
He's looked really, really impressive this year, almost like a young Derrick Thomas or Jason Taylor. He doesn't really have a good inside move yet, occasionally gets swallowed in the run game, and seems to get put on his @ss by big collisions. But he's making an impact in both the pass and run games. Watching him beat TBs to the sideline on wide pitches has been amazing. Crazy to think he played with his hand in the dirt at LSU.
I'm also shocked he only had 4.5 sacks last year. Every time I watched an LSU game he jumped off the screen. I think it was the height/speed combo -- he looked like a demon coming off the edge.
I'm also shocked he only had 4.5 sacks last year. Every time I watched an LSU game he jumped off the screen. I think it was the height/speed combo -- he looked like a demon coming off the edge.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:32 am to tigerprl
Haha true... ITS EVERYONES FAULT :beatdeadhorse:
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