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re: Miles responds to Michael Cauble's criticism of the offense, and fear of passing

Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:39 am to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79061 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:39 am to
Les is 100% correct. He was trying to win games. LSU has and always will be a running team.

But yeah let's throw the guy out there that went 3/14.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8449 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:40 am to
How is their rest more meaningful when the game clock is running? The play clock is the same so is a 3 and out with 3 straight runs really that much more restful than 3 straight incompletions assuming a HUNH isn't ran?
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:43 am to
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We had no other choice, I think it is terrible we didnt but if you cant understand Les and his explanation I dont know what to say....you cant just throw it to throw it when you cant throw it.......


Who's at fault there?
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20922 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:43 am to
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The calls are not the problem, the lack of a passing game is.


But there is no reason the passing game should be THAT bad. If GT and Air Force can scheme a way to make easy throws and be more effective through the air than us, it's not solely on the QB.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
63297 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:45 am to
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Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20979 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:46 am to
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Now, we want to throw it. We have talented receivers. We would think that we’re through the QB misery, development if you will, and get to a point this spring, where we will throw the ball a ton this spring. We’ll see who comes out of spring, then we’ll go into fall ball and there will be competition that will tell it, and I would think that we’ve improved tremendously.


Rinse and repeat each year.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
63297 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:48 am to
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But yeah let's throw the guy out there that went 3/14.


What about the guy that went:

4/5 62 yds, 1 TD, plus 62 yds rushing with another TD
6/9 140 yds, 2 TD
Posted by Tigahbader
Nunya
Member since Oct 2014
767 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:50 am to
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We’ll see who comes out of spring, then we’ll go into fall ball and there will be competition that will tell it, and I would think that we’ve improved tremendously.


This sounds eerily familiar. Lets hope there truly is some competition. I would think there WOULD BE some improvement being as how we are at rock bottom with the passing game right now. No where to go but up.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79061 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:50 am to
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Lee was afraid of contact in 2008. he threw off his backfoot all the time. it was his bad habit that got him in the doghouse. but just because you have one QB like that doesn't mean they all will be. 



The point is Les recruited a qb out of hs and let him throw the ball a shite ton.

We are 3 seasons removed from Lee. We have had 2 starting qbs recruited from hs since then. They were allowed to throw the ball as well earlier in the season.

We went heavy run and won 3 sec games in a row and almost a 4th against what ended up being the #1 seed.

Les was right.
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 11:52 am
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25879 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:55 am to
Cauble should have said, if you are saying you should stick with something that is working, please explain Fournette's touches in Nashville. Thanks.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44087 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:06 pm to
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The overt problem with this explanation is that we weren't "ripping off runs going up and down the field" against teams with above average defenses, such as Alabama and Arkansas. Yet, even when that didn't work, we obstinately stuck with it.


The game plan against Bama was great & we should have won that game.

Arkie game was more of motivation and they wanted that game more than we did.....and QB play was putrid
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:09 pm to
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The overt problem with this explanation is that we weren't "ripping off runs going up and down the field" against teams with above average defenses, such as Alabama and Arkansas. Yet, even when that didn't work, we obstinately stuck with it.


The other problem is that his response TAKES NO frickING RESPONSIBILITY for the fact our passing offense blew chunks.

Even worse, it is an ADMISSION his QB couldn't get the job done and yet, he NEVER EVEN TRIED the other guy again. Oh sure. Maybe the other guy wouldn't have solved the problem.

But, just like on 1-9, to basically say, "oh well, we can't do it so frick it" is throwing in the towel. It's bull shite. You at least f'n try.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:12 pm to
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The overt problem with this explanation is that we weren't "ripping off runs going up and down the field" against teams with above average defenses, such as Alabama and Arkansas. Yet, even when that didn't work, we obstinately stuck with it.
I should add that if Miles had ONLY shown that he's terrified of passing this year, it would be one thing. But, the "48%" line didn't apply to the Senior year of JL and JJ.

And, hell, even with two STUD WRs and an NFL ready QB, LSU was SEVENTY FIFTH in pass attempts. SEVENTY frickING FIFTH.

Miles is TERRIFIED of the thrown ball and his answer is bull shite.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
70719 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:16 pm to
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Miles is TERRIFIED of the thrown ball and his answer is bull shite.




Good stuff right there.

He should coach tennis then. If the new courts are ever done.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
5534 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:18 pm to
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All it will take is a 9 win season in 2015 to have an UPWARD spiral. Big frickin deal. 
Actually, to be considered a spiral it has to make a few rounds. Meaning a few years in this context. So yes, LSU may have consistent 10 win seasons they have dropped in conference play for 3 straight seasons. That's a downward spiral. As well, it will take multiple years of improvement to constitute an upward spiral. Not just one 9 win season.




This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 12:19 pm
Posted by vjm41
Lake Charles, La
Member since Jan 2008
910 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:23 pm to
LESS is always right ,that's why LSU has more players starting in the NFL than any other team and has won 4 Straight Championships and has had a TOP 10 offense every year since he's been at LSU ,YEA Miles is right. Don't believe me ask a PUMPER
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28048 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:29 pm to
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So you run it to run it even when you can't run it instead?


If running it is better than passing it, then yeah. You watched our passing game this year. It was complete and utter bulkshit. The running game was our only shining light and even it was heavily weighed down by often bad OL play, bad RB ball distribution (Fournette should have gotten it more), and all the time horrendous passing.
Posted by Barry Badrinath
MISS'IPPI
Member since Mar 2008
6294 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:35 pm to
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you tell me what you think I ought to do now, Cauble.


I know this isn't the context miles is referencing,

BUT

Why don't you scrap that shitheap of an offense, and run something that the QB's YOU recruited (you know, the most important position on offense) are comfortable running.

Run a spread attack that is not up tempo so you can still win that TOP battle you know and love. But just something that is more simplistic than what we currently run and more creative. Spread a D out so it gives your big time RBs space to run to rip off big plays.

It shouldn't take a NFL QB to run a college offense.
Posted by TwoDatBait
Northshore, LA
Member since Jul 2011
6191 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:36 pm to
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Am I the only one confused by this? If we were a 48% passing team, would the percentage of incompletions be 52%


It seems confusing but Im guessing Miles meant,

48% of the OFFENSIVE plays ran were passes....
of those PASS plays, 48% were incompletions.....

meaning the other 52% of the OFFENSIVE plays were runs and the other 52% of the PASS plays were completions......

Miles was wrong though, 30% of the plays were passes and of that, they completed 50% of them.....

Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 12:45 pm to
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Miles was wrong though, 30% of the plays were passes and of that, they completed 50% of them.....





"Miles Men" are not going to like you pointing this out, not at all
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