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re: Miles: QB situation not settled
Posted on 3/5/09 at 3:18 pm to LSUfan4444
Posted on 3/5/09 at 3:18 pm to LSUfan4444
quote:
you are really all over the place
not really, it pretty simple actually. Your just having trouble connecting the dots.
I understand the door is wide open. Follow Me? ok good, lets continue. I do not think Lee will win the job. still with me, wonderful. Finally, I hope Russell Shepard can win the job! Thats its.
And im sorry me being a fan of Russell Shepard and pulling for him changes things? I dont follow your logic here at all, well actually thats been everywhere, but whatever.
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 3:20 pm to King Joey
quote:
I'm trying to figure out why
because mr. LA007 asked me where I was getting my information that people were so confident in Jarrett Lee starting. So I took the liberty to go find some example for him! Didnt quite get that, did ya?
and you are the master at selective reading sir.
This post was edited on 3/5/09 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 3/5/09 at 3:22 pm to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
quote:By whom? The only posts I've seen where someone criticized your "opinion" were when you started talking about what Miles "said" in that article, which clearly was not what he actually said. The only things Miles said in that article are the things between the quotation marks. The rest of it is not what Miles said, nor is it from Miles. The rest of it is simply some sportswriter trying to fashion a story.
cause all im saying is that in my opion Lee isnt going to win the starting job and keep getting told, "oh you dumb-butt, the competition is open."
And nowhere between the quotation marks was there anything that said the starting competition would be between Jefferson and Shepard.
But that's a separate argument about what the article says. When it comes to who will actually be the starter, I've never claimed to konw, and I've never criticized anyone's opinion that did not purport to know. If you just think that one guy has a better chance than the other guy, I haven't criticized your opinion at all.
Posted on 3/5/09 at 3:25 pm to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
quote:
The offense with JJ at the helm averaged 34 points and only 25 with Lee. Im sorry all the facts here and considering Lee couldnt handle the big game hype gives me no reason to believe he should start over JJ.
JJ along with the defense had a month to get ready for GA Tech. Look, all those returned int's were flukes. 99 times out of a hundred none of them get returned for 6. The kid had a rough year no doubt but do you think his year was any rougher than those new starters at DB or LB?
They got burned with regularity and they took alot of lumps. I think that will serve them well this coming season as it will JL. You learn from times like those and you build on what you learn.
Posted on 3/5/09 at 3:29 pm to King Joey
You havent directly, and LA007 has! hes said several things ive said havent made any sense, your questioning my opion here actually because in my opion people are questioning my opion , LA007 says my opion to pull for a player I am a fan of is totaly bogus. Yea its happend
, LA007 says my opion to pull for a player I am a fan of is totaly bogus. Yea its happendPosted on 3/5/09 at 3:29 pm to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
quote:Okay, that was LSUFAN4444, but whatever.
because mr. LA007 asked me where I was getting my information that people were so confident in Jarrett Lee starting.
quote:You quoted one guy who said we will see Lee playing as much as the others, and another who claimed Miles will start Lee ahead of the others because he always goes with experience. Where did you see -- in either of those quotes -- an expression of confidence in Lee? Neither of them even suggested that Lee would play well, and one of them flat out stated that the reason he would be starting would be because of Miles' predeliction for experience over all else, not because of Lee's ability. This was what you used to try and prove that people were "so confident" in Lee?
So I took the liberty to go find some example for him!
quote:No, I can honestly admit that I did not guess from those quotes that you were trying to prove that people were "so confident" in Lee.
Didnt quite get that, did ya?
Posted on 3/5/09 at 3:33 pm to rtgr
quote:
JJ along with the defense had a month to get ready for GA Tech. Look, all those returned int's were flukes. 99 times out of a hundred none of them get returned for 6. The kid had a rough year no doubt but do you think his year was any rougher than those new starters at DB or LB?
They got burned with regularity and they took alot of lumps. I think that will serve them well this coming season as it will JL. You learn from times like those and you build on what you learn.
Ok if it was like 3 I can see them being flukes, but 7 is kinda pushing it. Some of them shouldnt have been TD, but there were alot that he gave the LSU players no chance of takling them(look at UGA, Auburn, and Troy in particular, those come to mind). And oh god no, the DBs and LBs were just as bad as Lee, but they were bad because of defensive coaching.
Posted on 3/5/09 at 3:37 pm to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
quote:True, that was him and not me. I don't care if you pull for a player or not (though it doesn't really make sense; but fandom isn't really supposed to, is it?).
your questioning my opion here actually because in my opion people are questioning my opion , LA007 says my opion to pull for a player I am a fan of is totaly bogus.
But the Miles quotes from the article do not suggest a starting competition strictly between Jefferson and Shepard. In fact, the quote about developing QB "down the line" clearly refers to Shepard:
quote:Even if you ignore the writer's assertion that the quote was in response to a question specifically about Shepard, and look only at the words Miles said, it seems pretty clear he is not talking about Lee in the "down the line" comment. When he's talking about a guy having "some other pieces of the offense for him" and commenting on the use of "'instead'" in reference to a quarterback, it sounds very much like he is discussing Shepard.
Miles expanded a bit when asked if Shepard could be like Harvin "instead" of a quarterback.
"I don't know there's an 'instead' going on yet," he said. "I think we need to develop down the line at quarterback as well, and I think he's also a guy that might have some other pieces of the offense for him. But I think it's a little premature at this point to determine that. I think we'll look at it more as spring goes on, to be honest with you."
Posted on 3/5/09 at 3:44 pm to King Joey
quote:
about developing QB "down the line" clearly refers to Shepard:
No it doesnt actually clearly refer to him, nothing Miles said in that was clear by any fashion. I mean "down the line" is that down the line depth, down the line time. It could mean anything. As LSUFAN444(4) would say, your blind by your own opion.
This post was edited on 3/5/09 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 3/5/09 at 3:47 pm to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
Whatever. This has gotten way too far from the point. You think both guys (plus Shepard, I guess) have a chance at winning the job. I think Jefferson is more likely to win it and it seems you even agree with that, too. So no point in arguing anymore. I say we just enjoy this basketball and baseball ride while we can . . . plenty of time for pointless football arguments in the "dead period" from June to August! 
Posted on 3/5/09 at 4:04 pm to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
after going back and scimming through this book of a thread, couple things are very apparent ...
you JL haters have a few things im common
you dont want to see am open competition
you dont want JL to improve
even if JL outperform JJ this spring and fall you douchebags will still put him down and act as if you know better than the coaches...
I've said it before... some of you are fuking pathetic. its more important for you to be right and feed your own personal agenda than to support all our guys.
pleasure to know we have such "dedicated" fans.
you JL haters have a few things im common
you dont want to see am open competition
you dont want JL to improve
even if JL outperform JJ this spring and fall you douchebags will still put him down and act as if you know better than the coaches...
I've said it before... some of you are fuking pathetic. its more important for you to be right and feed your own personal agenda than to support all our guys.
pleasure to know we have such "dedicated" fans.
Posted on 3/5/09 at 4:08 pm to hotrod
I'm not about to attempt to read 27 pages worth of this but....
Coach Miles thinks Sheppard may be the best they have and I think there is a good chance he is your starter. If he doesn't get the start, no doubt he will get playing time.
So many things can change between now and then, but Miles initial thoughts on Sheppard are he's going to be VERY good.
Coach Miles thinks Sheppard may be the best they have and I think there is a good chance he is your starter. If he doesn't get the start, no doubt he will get playing time.
So many things can change between now and then, but Miles initial thoughts on Sheppard are he's going to be VERY good.
Posted on 3/5/09 at 4:12 pm to belowpar
quote:
belowpar
that's it, belowpar has spoken.
we can all log off now.
Posted on 3/5/09 at 4:13 pm to hotrod
quote:
even if JL outperform JJ this spring and fall you douchebags will still put him down and act as if you know better than the coaches...
Nope. Im not even a JJ fan, I like the kid a think he did some great stuff and was my favorite player of the chicken bowl to watch, but am I sure I want him to win the starting job, not yet. The one thing I am sure of is I wont be looking for much sucess next year if JL is the starter, simple as that, and JL could very easily prove me wrong. Ill support Les miles decision either way, but I wont nessicarily be happy with it.
Posted on 3/5/09 at 4:18 pm to Northwestern tiger
Why would it be settled? If it was, saying so this early would only decrease the competitiveness of the backups and starter as well.
Posted on 3/5/09 at 4:51 pm to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
could you prove my point anymore.?
personal agendas drive this topic., no matter how irrational they may be
personal agendas drive this topic., no matter how irrational they may be
Posted on 3/5/09 at 4:59 pm to hotrod
quote:
could you prove my point anymore.?
personal agendas drive this topic., no matter how irrational they may be
you sir, are the irrational one here, cause everyone is entitled to their own opion and what they think will bring our '09 football team the most sucess. I will support Miles either way, but that doesnt mean im going to be happy with his decision unless JL can make a huge turn around. Thats unlikely and thats where my statement is coming from. Its completely rational, its more you just dont agree with it.
Posted on 3/5/09 at 5:02 pm to belowpar
quote:
Coach Miles thinks Sheppard may be the best they have and I think there is a good chance he is your starter. If he doesn't get the start, no doubt he will get playing time.
So many things can change between now and then, but Miles initial thoughts on Sheppard are he's going to be VERY good.
wow
Posted on 3/5/09 at 5:07 pm to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
I really have a hard time finding the rational in someone implying that a red shirt fresh QB can't improve.
No logical person would think that much less say it... once again that's what you hope for, wether you'll admit it or not.
its fuking obvious.
No logical person would think that much less say it... once again that's what you hope for, wether you'll admit it or not.
its fuking obvious.
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