re: Miles OOC Record at LSU

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He won a bunch and mad hats off to him, but a lot of them were excruciating to watch.

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As the late Al Davis said: “Just Win baby!”

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There's not one frickING team in the entire country that wants to hire his unemployed arse.

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Which coach we talkin about ??

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And just out of curiousity, what’s the rest of the SEC West’s record against Arkansas and ole miss from 2005-2015?

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Dave, you and everyone else remember this question next time you want to talk about why the expectations at lsu have been lowered.

I don’t realky know the answer or care to know it. Let’s not pretend that losing to those teams was an anomaly. I get that things can align for these programs and they can beat us. But it shouldn’t happen regularly and it did, esp near the end

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Dave, you and everyone else remember this question next time you want to talk about why the expectations at lsu have been lowered.

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Dude I’ve never argued that les shouldn’t have been fired.

You put these words in my mouth and then try and prove wrong an argument I never put forth.

The losses against ole miss and Arkansas piled up...and les was fired. The expectations were never lowered...

Until this year, when LSU suffered the worst margin of defeat to state, ever, and the first loss to a sun belt team, ever.

So yea, I really don’t want to hear about how Miles occasionally dropping a game to ole miss or arkansas, teams that have historically always played LSU tough, is somehow equivalent to losing your homecoming game to a sunbelt team that has only beaten 3 other SEC teams ever in the history of its football program.

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O losing to Troy is not an excuse to exempt Les Miles from his bad losses

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True, but it’s hilarious how the most vocal people criticizing Les are also the most vocal people propping up O, who is much worse.

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losing to Troy is not an excuse to exempt Les Miles from his bad losses

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It just proves we made the problem worse

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love how the defense mechanism is to always compare it to O instead of just talking about Miles

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I’m happy to talk about Miles’ tenure.

But don’t try to pretend the discussion hasn’t changed from Miles can’t beat Alabama and the offense sucks, to, well since we still can’t beat Alabama and our offense still sucks so let’s talk about Ole Miss and Arkansas and throw in some junk about not recruiting the trenches (NEVER said before September of last year unless it was in the context of falling behind Alabama, not fricking MSU or Troy).


But ok, let’s talk about Ole Miss and Arkansas, two rivals that have consistently played us tough and beaten us on occasions when many thought they shouldn’t throughout our history.

Nick Saban was 7-3 against them in his tenure, so let’s say that a good baseline for how often we should beat them. 70%.


After 2012, Miles was 11-5 against them. That’s 68.75% (which included the Petrino year’s). Certainly not terrible or firable.

Then, the decline. We split games with them in 2013 and 14, putting us at 13-7, 65%. Again, not outrageous, and a dip there certainly could be due to the up cycle for those two schools at that point under coaches that had improved their programs (not to mention the adjustment to Ark the week after Alabama).


Then, the perfect storm.

2015, those two teams lined up after Alabama at their absolute peaks under Bert and Freeze, and we have the worst hangover in Miles’ tenure after the Bama loss when ranked #2 and go 0-2 against them to give Miles his first three loss streak in his entire time in Baton Rouge.


At that point, Miles was effectively fired. He was 13-9 against them, 59% and certainly not where we needed to be.

But you can’t forget to factor in that Miles had greatly improved our records against both Florida (7-4) and Auburn (8-3) over Saban’s mark (he was below 50% against both).


So cherry picking Ole Miss and Arkansas while we were on historic runs against Auburn and Florida is, as usual, biased and not a full picture.

Factor in that Miles would likely have run straight threw those two garbage defenses in 16 and 17 the same way O did because they collapsed after the flash of those coaches, and he would be at 17-9, back above 65% again.



Oh I’m sure you’ll roll your eyes and call me a Miles lover and say I wish he were still here or just say TLDR because you can’t respond.

Nevermind that I posted on this board before 2016 that if he didn’t win the West that year it was time to move on (because that WAS the standard and the beef with Miles back then no matter how much you and yours try to revise history now that our current coach that you prefer over Miles can’t do it either).


Miles should never have been fired in September. Period.

It was a shameful, premature, and, most importantly, stupid decision because it put us in a situation where a position coach that couldn’t have paid his way to an interview at any other SEC or even P5 program was allowed to weasel his way into a job he isn’t qualified for facing expectations he simply cannot meet.


So he and the AD do everything they can to convince the masses that the expectations are actually not what THEY said they were all along.

The people that buy it are either fools or just those that hated our previous coach so much that they are content to not have him as our coach any more even if it means the program suffers or simply stays in place.


You can let us know in which category you prefer to be included

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But don’t try to pretend the discussion hasn’t changed from Miles can’t beat Alabama and the offense sucks, to, well since we still can’t beat Alabama and our offense still sucks so let’s talk about Ole Miss and Arkansas and throw in some junk about not recruiting the trenches (NEVER said before September of last year unless it was in the context of falling behind Alabama, not fricking MSU or Troy)

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Well, no doubt more blame will be laid at Miles's feet in just a few short weeks. The challenge is just trying to figure out what it'll be.

I don't disagree with anything you said besides the fact you think Miles would have ran through Ole Miss & Ark in 16'-17'

The way Miles played Urban Meyer led teams was probably his greatest accomplishment.