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re: Miles on T-Bob and JJ on last play

Posted on 10/5/10 at 9:18 am to
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 9:18 am to
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There was no play in for that last snap. T-bob improvised and decided to snap that ball.


So they sent in substitutions and didn't have a play called? bullshite!

Now is it possible that JJ didn't get the play? Yeah, I guess, but NO WAY they weren't trying to signal teh play into him. That is the reason he talked to the RB to tell him where to lineup and told him the play.

JJ knew what to run. But, again, why in teh frick would you turn your head after you asked for the snap?
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 9:19 am to
a rationalization IMHO. JJ's eyes were definately not on the snap nor was he ready for it. if he had called for the snap, he would have been ready for it, it hit him in the hands. his eyes may have been on the clock, only JJ knows for sure and that's what he told his coach, but i seriously doubt that would have made any difference because he would have had to process that we only had about 2 sec's left and would have then had to call for the snap and it's very likely it would not have got off on time. no matter what defense bull shite we hear from players, coaches, etc. we were TOTALLY CONFUSED and not prepared for not scoring on JJ's run. the substitions at that point were the icing on the cake as that also confused ut. it would have been interesting to see what JJ, coaches and co. would have done if they had NOT made those substitutions and JJ was out there with no play being called. pure speculation but i say complete mental meltdown by JJ and we would not have got another snap. i say this not because of JJ but because our coaching staff has him on such a short lease that he IS NOT ALLOWED TO DO ANY THINKING ON THE FIELD. the coaches require him to get his play from the sideline and we all know how long that takes. we most definately need to put in a package for that situation; that is when we have no time outs and the game is on the line. the qb needs to be in charge and the team needs to know what plays are going to be run. my thoughts would be either a spike or a endzone pattern that the qb can throw it away if the wr is not open,thereby stopping the clock.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 9:20 am to
And, for the record, I hate JJ at qb.

But your "hero" T Bob totally blew his block and his man went untouched and JJ would NOT have gotten the pass off anyway!

TOTAL CLUSTERfrick! Starts and ends with Miles.
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 9:21 am to
Posted by pabgolf
baton rouge
Member since Dec 2009
1901 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 9:24 am to
For the umpteenth time, Miles is an IDIOT!!!
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24502 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 9:36 am to
Jefferson was not even lined up behind T-Bob.

He was staggered left, halfway over Dworazyck.

Yesterday on Finebaum, a couple of old SEC coaches were discussing the situation, and inadvertently gave T-Bob credit for snapping because he knew there were too many men on the field.

Yeah, that's why he threw his helmet off in disgust, and looked at the sideline the same way the fans, and every other person invested in the program did.

I was actually totally silent as the last events unfolded. I looked down the sideline for the players' reactions, and saw what I expected. Then, glanced over to Miles walking toward the middle of the field, waving Jefferson over. He had his entourage of troopers with him, and I thought to myself, he's going to need them.
This post was edited on 10/5/10 at 9:39 am
Posted by spinoza
Member since Jan 2008
5543 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:39 am to
quote:

glanced over to Miles walking toward the middle of the field, waving Jefferson over.


Even after hearing Les "explain" what happened...I still do not understand what Les was thinking...
Posted by pdxlsufan
Beaverton, Oregon
Member since May 2008
3226 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:48 am to
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It has been reported by at least three different players that Miles only sent one play in.


If this is true, then it's evidence for the #1 problem with sending in JJ on 2nd & Goal to run the ball. You shouldn't send in a new QB unless they've got a MINIMUM of 2 plays to run out of the no huddle. Crowton's play calling from 2nd & Goal on is completely and totally inexcusable. Crowton/Miles were saved by two things and things only: T-Bob snapped the ball and Tennessee had 13 players on the field. Otherwise, we might have seen the first ever public execution in Tiger Stadium. As it was, a cheerleader was sent to the hospital.
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
3866 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 11:01 am to
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" The good news is we get that play on the field and we are ready to run the play, the quarterback calls for the ball but no one can hear. The quarterback then goes to look at the clock and loses sight of the ball and there is the fumble."



Where did you get this quote from?
Posted by Brett425
West Monroe, La.
Member since Jun 2010
1758 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 11:09 am to
The clap is to let the center know the offense is set. He turned his head and said something to Ridley. T-Bob snaps in panic. One more second and JJ would have called for the ball. We would have got a free play off and another because of the penalty if needed.
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 11:23 am to
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He turned his head and said something to Ridley.


Fail. He slapped his hands and about .2 seconds afterwards, he turned his head and looked about 45-60 degrees to his left, somewhere near the left tackle to recevier area. As his head was returning back to center, T-Bob snapped the ball.

Ridley was in back of him.

You need to look again and come back with a different apologetic theory.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 11:25 am to
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This post was edited on 10/5/10 at 11:26 am
Posted by windriver
West Monroe/San Diego
Member since Mar 2006
8656 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 11:34 am to
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- In my honest opinion, in that situation, JJ should of never been on the field. What did he do to deserve being in the game right there? I'm of the


This is what really pisses me off about Miles. Putting JJ in at that point made absolutely no fricking sense.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37006 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 11:51 am to
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theLSUSaint: But your "hero" T Bob totally blew his block and his man went untouched and JJ would NOT have gotten the pass off anyway!


Its pretty easy to miss "his" block when you have 13 guys lined up on defense.
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14828 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 11:57 am to
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Smacks of more covering up for JJ. I would bet T Bob had it right the first time.

Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 12:42 pm to
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Ridley was in back of him.


Ridley was directly to his right.

After re-watching this video, all of the blame falls on the coaching staff. While they are running guys onto the field with about 14 seconds left JJ is looking desperatly to the sideline to get some kind of play. The whole thing was just a terrible coaching frick-up imo.

BTW, that Tenn interference call looks a little suspect. No way that ball was catchable. JMO.

LINK
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

Smacks of more covering up for JJ. I would bet T Bob had it right the first time.
How is it a possible cover up for JJ that Les says that Jefferson looked away when the ball was snapped?

Wouldn't that fall completely on Jefferson?



quote:

Ridley was in back of him.
No. Ridley was a half yard ahead of Jefferson and to Jefferson's right.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

In my honest opinion, in that situation, JJ should of never been on the field. What did he do to deserve being in the game right there?

Um, ran the ball in for a TD - FROM 83 FREAKING YARDS OUT.

quote:

I'm of the belief that you reward players for doing well

That's why you are sitting behind your desk at your job, and Les Miles is a coach making nearly $4 million per year.

You put in the players that you think give you the best chance to win the ball game.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49054 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

" The good news is we get that play on the field and we are ready to run the play, the quarterback calls for the ball but no one can hear. The quarterback then goes to look at the clock and loses sight of the ball and there is the fumble."

Now that is a bit of "re-framing" that I was not expecting to come out of his mouth. Now T-Bob is partially to blame because Tiger Stadium was so loud with LSU on the field that T-Bob could not hear/see him call for the snap? The film sure looks different in terms of whether JJ looked set and like he was calling for the snap, so I will rewind tivo and review it once again.

So. T-Bob was only a hero for snapping the ball because he failed to hear/see the call for the snap a couple of seconds earlier?

Wow.


None of this matches what has been said by the players.

This myth that Miles is a "good guy" is just that . . a myth. He threw Jefferson under the bus for his frick up at Ole Miss, and now he's throwing T-Bob under the bus for Tennessee.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16964 posts
Posted on 10/5/10 at 1:03 pm to
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Most of you would have crapped yourselves out there if you were QB'ing let alone be aware of the play clock.


Yeah you're right, because we aren't a Junior Div I QB on a full scholarship to play fricking football and practice this shite everyday.
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