re: Miles-Krag and the JJ situation

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You have this idea that I think JJ is definitely the one to lead us back to the BCS

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I don't have any idea, I think you do however take a lot of this personal though.

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. But my whole point is what good is it going to do to constantly criticize the man?

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Because this is a rant where there is a back and forth... if you don't like criticism of LSU players then maybe Dawgrant is the place for you.

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Really appears childish

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As does you taking this personally and attempting to call posters out because you do not like the opinion that they offer

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I'm not sure what fans of a team would constantly dog one of the players.

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Again... dog on... is what stating facts? You don't think Florida fans are critical of Brantley, or South Carolina fans are critical of Garcia?

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It's not being objective. Criticism is objective.

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Apparently to you anything said you don't like is bashing of the player and that is the problem here. You take it personal instead of what it is, someone offering an opinion different from your own.

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. Bashing and hate is childish and embarrassing and this board is overrun with it.

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Again you can not distinguish between bashing and hate. I am not sure why you have this block that you believe criticism is bashing and hate. I guess it has more to do with you the person and that you are a sensitive individual as I can separate criticism from actual hate of a player.

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Most of what I read is objective. Few bashers. There are some, and you should address them. Posting stats isn't bashing.

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A-MEN

It is imperative that stats that are not pleasing to the fans here be posted again and again and again so that none of us ever forgets. Any positive stats must be buried in the avalanche of stats that aren't what the fans want.
LSU football exists to make fans happy and when we aren't happy, we have an obligation to trumpet that displeasure as loud and as often as we can.

So let's keep the river of discontent flowing.

3 1/2 months til fall practice starts and the QB topic will definitely be at the top of things discussed. Just giving fair waring. If you remember correctly it was last summer as well, because of Z. Lee

There will be daily discussions from here on out, simply because most people deem it the most important thing to discuss, and the weakest position on the team.

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JJ has pictures of miles p

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So this is considered bashing/trashing now? Sensitive much?

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would JJ score double digits on the wonderlic

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Link.... i've been on this board awhile and I haven't seen anyone mention this...although first he would need an invite to combine and neither he or Lee would honestly be at the combine

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Seriously you can't defend those kinds of posts as "discussion".

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When people take it too far and say Jefferson is stupid, Jefferson doesn't have it between the ears, Jefferson is dumb, etc I have no problem RA'ing which is what the feature is for... However, I am not gonna let it get under my skin either.
Personal attacks have no place on this board, no matter on Jefferson or Lee. They are childish, stupid, and show the ignorance of the individual making the claim. But to take every post that you do not see as "positive" and equate it to bashing and trashing a player is fallacy. One can be critical of his play on the field or Lee, or Ware, or anyone else and still support the team. If Jefferson plays well then great good because it means Krag worked wonders and improved his flawed mechanics and gave him confidence. If he doesn't then LSU has two viable replacements in Lee/Mett. I have been critical of Lee as well but you don't post that, I have said he is a below average QB as well. Do you get upset by that or only when I say it about Jefferson?

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You keep calling me sensitive. Thats not the case. I'm enjoying discussion but just wish it was more football substance and less personal attacks on players and coaches.

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You did start it out by attempting to call me out... I responded to an outlandish statement by someone stating that "there aren't many SEC teams that wouldn't want J Jeff" by our friend The Quad.

You also seem to believe the criticism is a personal attack on coaching and players which as I stated earlier is sensitive. If you look at the board many of these issues are rehashed weekly which is why you continue to see the same things posted. There are very few "original" thoughts on the rant and many thoughts will center on the QB position because it has been an obvious weakness for 3 seasons now.
Very few people honestly believe LSU can win a National Title with another season of QB play and many would actually like to see the coach speak of "Jefferson looks improved" translate to on field success. Put me in this category as I will continue to have doubts until he can play with consistency. I have been critical of Jefferson and Lee but I respect them for staying at LSU when they each could have taken easy road and transferred to another school. That still would not stop me from being critical though, I can respect the athlete and be critical of their performance and not see it as "bashing" because I can separate between the two.

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Do you think we'll have a legit QB competition going in to the season?

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I hope so, but I'm not sure.

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Avoid the rant?

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He might. When his nephew completes his final year of eligibility...

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Again, I think we all know what the QB situation will be like going into fall.

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what, that our incompetent coach will start the wrong QB, who has obviously been overtaken by the new guy...or at least he would be overtaken if only the coach wasn't overprotecting his lil baby?

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Has he struggled...yes, but but he wouldn't be playing QB for LSU if we had another QB with some talent/ability

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FIFY