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Miles easily outcoached Saban (Again)
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:13 am
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:13 am
I've been a vocal critic of CLM and I still think he plays favorites with players, but he is now 3-2 head to head against Saban. Les made the better coaching moves last night.
1.) Saban attempted 6 field goals total. Bama only made from 34 and 46. Bama missed from 44, 50, 49 (blocked), an 52 (OT). Leaving aside the 52 yard attempt in OT, which never had a prayer, Saban would have been smarter to punt and play field position.
2.) Bama's offensive play calling was atrocious. Never got any rythim and they rarely kept with what was working. Bama followed a Trent Richardson 24 yard run early in the 4th with an ill-advised WR pass that was intercepted. Why not keep pounding the ball against a tiring LSU defense?
3.) Putting an injured Marquies Maze back to receive the punt late in the 4th was moronic and it was so obvious that even Gary Danielson said so before the play.
Congrats to Les Miles.
ETA: Bama won the opening coin toss and decided to receive. Not the best decision for two defensive heavyweights.
1.) Saban attempted 6 field goals total. Bama only made from 34 and 46. Bama missed from 44, 50, 49 (blocked), an 52 (OT). Leaving aside the 52 yard attempt in OT, which never had a prayer, Saban would have been smarter to punt and play field position.
2.) Bama's offensive play calling was atrocious. Never got any rythim and they rarely kept with what was working. Bama followed a Trent Richardson 24 yard run early in the 4th with an ill-advised WR pass that was intercepted. Why not keep pounding the ball against a tiring LSU defense?
3.) Putting an injured Marquies Maze back to receive the punt late in the 4th was moronic and it was so obvious that even Gary Danielson said so before the play.
Congrats to Les Miles.
ETA: Bama won the opening coin toss and decided to receive. Not the best decision for two defensive heavyweights.
This post was edited on 11/6/11 at 7:14 pm
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Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:16 am to Shaka Zulu
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I've been a vocal critic of CLM and I still think he plays favorites with players
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:16 am to nosaj56
i really don't see how he outcoached saban. however, if you can provide me with some examples, then i might believe that he did.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:16 am to Shaka Zulu
I doubt Saban single handedly made (or makes) all of those decisions that you cited. Most are made by the coordinators and assistants.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:19 am to Shaka Zulu
I thought we'd lose, then I saw Saban go ultra conservative and I thought......He's playing for overtime!
WTF? I couldn't believe it. No guts.
Then I realized we had shut them down in the red zone and it will probably go down to field goal.
I smiled, looked at my mates (tribute to Brad Wing) and said....we're going to win in OT.
And other than Ford stepping out at the 7, it was a perfect ending to the game.
EPIC
WTF? I couldn't believe it. No guts.
Then I realized we had shut them down in the red zone and it will probably go down to field goal.
I smiled, looked at my mates (tribute to Brad Wing) and said....we're going to win in OT.
And other than Ford stepping out at the 7, it was a perfect ending to the game.
EPIC
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:19 am to tigerdup07
Allow me to quote from the Fox Sports article about Saban's getting out-coached:
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Meanwhile, Saban was doing all kinds of questionable things.
What was up with the pass by Maze with 11 minutes left in the fourth and the score tied? Maze himself admitted he had only thrown three times at Alabama, though he "does it a lot in practice" and talked about the game plan being to "run it down their throats." Having Maze back to field the ensuing punt was equally questionable.
And the insistence of repeatedly going back to his field goal kickers, who were struggling, and from crazy long, almost un-makeable distances, was infuriating even for those without rooting interests. By the time 'Bama reached overtime with a 52-yard field goal needing to be made, his kickers were mentally fried. Nobody in the stadium thought Cade Foster was making it, certainly not Cade Foster.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:21 am to BoudreauxsCousin
link? id like to read that.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:21 am to Shaka Zulu
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I still think he plays favorites with players,
People still think this?
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:23 am to Nick Papa Georgio
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:25 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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I doubt Saban single handedly made (or makes) all of those decisions that you cited. Most are made by the coordinators and assistants.
But when LSU does this it 100% miles. You're trying too hard.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:25 am to tigerdup07
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i really don't see how he outcoached saban. however, if you can provide me with some examples, then i might believe that he did
Instead of punting on a 50 yard FG which your guy hasn't made all year, you put him in a situation where he's more likely to fail. Same with short FG kicker trying the 45 yard try. Two field position mistakes. Where as Miles deep ran 3 plays, avoided disaster, and let Wing, a known game changer, do just that.
LM > NS last night in Tuscaloosa
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:29 am to Shaka Zulu
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Saban would have been smarter to punt and play field position.
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Bama missed from 44, 50, 49
that means he was kicking from the 27, 33, and 32
think about that
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Bama's offensive play calling was atrocious. Never got any rythim and they rarely kept with what was working. Bama followed a Trent Richardson 24 yard run early in the 4th with an ill-advised WR pass that was intercepted. Why not keep pounding the ball against a tiring LSU defense?
Bama's was bad, our's was horrible. i don't think we can crown LSU based on this category
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3.) Putting an injured Marquies Maze back to receive the punt late in the 4th was moronic and it was so obvious that even Gary Danielson said so before the play.
yeah that was retarded
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:32 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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I doubt Saban single handedly made (or makes) all of those decisions that you cited. Most are made by the coordinators and assistants.
TNA, I've agreed with you on many occasions in the past, but it's weak to give Saban a pass on the accountability for the loss. He makes at least $6M a year to manage the operation.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:32 am to Shaka Zulu
You do realize that on a 50 yard field goal the ball is snapped from the 33. You really gonna punt from the 33?
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:33 am to dansr731
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You do realize that on a 50 yard field goal the ball is snapped from the 33. You really gonna punt from the 33?
yeah. exactly
what was great (for LSU) is in most of those FG situations, they were in 4th and long
bama should have gone for it in OT. that was inexcusable
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:35 am to dansr731
Let me tell you a story about 4 down territory. It's when you're too close to punt but too far to kick the fg.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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that means he was kicking from the 27, 33, and 32
think about that
You mean the line of scrimmage was at the 27, 33 and 32? OK, doesn't change where the holder spotted the ball and Bama didn't have the players to make those kicks. It doesn't change the field position argument to punt for the coffin corner.
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:38 am to dansr731
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You do realize that on a 50 yard field goal the ball is snapped from the 33. You really gonna punt from the 33?
Well since none had a prayer of makIng it, why not go for it on 4th down if you refuse to punt?
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:40 am to Shaka Zulu
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It doesn't change the field position argument to punt for the coffin corner.
you want to punt the ball from the fricking 27? you're almost assured to gain only 7 yards of field postiion
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