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Posted on 10/16/11 at 1:55 pm to TheDoc
I think it has a lot more to do with Ford not finishing runs and his poor blocking than anything. Blue looks like the most patient runner of the three. And regardless if Ford is giving sacks up or not, every time he comes into block it is putting pressure on the QB. They're in Lee's face. Secondly, it makes him much more predictable in our offense. When Ford comes into the game, 99% chance he is getting the ball. That is why they put Ware in on third down situations most of the time. I think Blue is underrated. He doesn't get enough touches either but what can you do when you have three studs? I guess it is a good problem to have.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 1:57 pm to deuce985
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Ford not finishing runs
when we start using him in a short-yardage role, this will matter
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and his poor blocking
there are solutions around this
put him in during mostly running plays (which is most of our plays, anyway) and run him on flares in passing plays (which we do)
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That is why they put Ware in on third down situations most of the time.
that's what 3rd down backs are for
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but what can you do when you have three studs? I guess it is a good problem to have.
whoa. blue hasn't shown stud status
Posted on 10/16/11 at 2:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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sure blue can get you yards, but ford can get you LOTS of yards
We have a lot of guys on the team that can get you lots of yards. None of our backs have broken an 80 yd td have they? But our qb has.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 2:01 pm to dgnx6
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We have a lot of guys on the team that can get you lots of yards. None of our backs have broken an 80 yd td have they? But our qb has.
Wait, wait, wait... are you arguing that Ford is not a bigger homerun threat than Ware or Blue?
Posted on 10/16/11 at 2:02 pm to dgnx6
talk about an outlier...
ford is our only playmaker of the "starting 3" running backs. he's the only one with legit explosive ability
that more than makes up for any problem with his pass blocking, especially with how little we pass
ford is our only playmaker of the "starting 3" running backs. he's the only one with legit explosive ability
that more than makes up for any problem with his pass blocking, especially with how little we pass
Posted on 10/16/11 at 2:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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whoa. blue hasn't shown stud status
So basically ur just knocking on blue rt?
He got pt cus les miles said he was the most polished back out of the 3 last year. And it seems like ford hasnt progressed the way the coaches want him to. Les Miles wants you to block, then fricking block and you will play.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 2:04 pm to Stagg8
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Wait, wait, wait... are you arguing that Ford is not a bigger homerun threat than Ware or Blue?
Where did i say that?
Posted on 10/16/11 at 2:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
They did yesterday. Also, lets be realistic...we all know this is why Miles isn't using Ford as much. He isn't finishing runs. Just like Keiland Williams had the exact same problem at times. Miles wants those violent runners all the time lowering their shoulder and dishing the punishment out.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 2:05 pm to dgnx6
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So basically ur just knocking on blue rt?
i'm not knocking anyone
if i say trent richardson is a better back than ware, that's not dissing ware
if i say michael ford is a better runner than blue, that's not dissing blue
it's only a diss if i am using a garbage player as a comparison
...i'm not doing that
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Les Miles wants you to block, then fricking block and you will play.
if only we were comparing offensive linemen
Posted on 10/16/11 at 2:05 pm to deuce985
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Miles wants those violent runners all the time lowering their shoulder and dishing the punishment out.
if this is true then that is fricking retarded
i mean legit mongoloid brain functions and logic
Posted on 10/16/11 at 2:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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talk about an outlier... ford is our only playmaker of the "starting 3" running backs. he's the only one with legit explosive ability that more than makes up for any problem with his pass blocking, especially with how little we pass
How is that an outlier? JJ was running the ball well last night. Wasnt he our leading rusher?
Ive already explained to you that les miles makes the decisions, Ford is a bad blocker and doesnt finish his runs. That is the reason he doesnt receive as much playing time. You know the kind of backs les likes to use, it has been no secret over the past 7 years.
This post was edited on 10/16/11 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 10/16/11 at 2:08 pm to dgnx6
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Where did i say that?
You said lots of our backs can get lots of yards. If what you meant by that was Ford was in no way a bigger threat to break a long run, then I would cease to even argue. For what it's worth Ford had the longest run of the 3 last year and has the longest run of the three this year.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 2:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
I guess he is retarded then. 
That is how our history has been with him here. You know and I know it. He always favors the bigger backs that have violent run styles. Addai was a hard runner, Hester, Scott, Ridley, Ware. They were all pretty big backs that loved to lower their shoulder.
That is how our history has been with him here. You know and I know it. He always favors the bigger backs that have violent run styles. Addai was a hard runner, Hester, Scott, Ridley, Ware. They were all pretty big backs that loved to lower their shoulder.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 2:12 pm to deuce985
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That is how our history has been with him here. You know and I know it. He always favors the bigger backs that have violent run styles. Addai was a hard runner, Hester, Scott, Ridley, Ware. They were all pretty big backs that loved to lower their shoulder.
I agree that this has been Miles' M.O. I don' think anyone would argue that. It's just frustrating to see a guy with the talent of Michael Ford get seemingly wasted due to having a non-Big 10 skillset.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 2:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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'm not knocking anyone if i say trent richardson is a better back than ware, that's not dissing ware if i say michael ford is a better runner than blue, that's not dissing blue it's only a diss if i am using a garbage player as a comparison ...i'm not doing that
Im pretty sure you havent been an advocate for blue from day 1. He has actually done well, ware is going to get the bulk of the carries any way. So it doesnt really matter.
Oh and ford is 2nd on the team in att and yds. So im not sure why anyone is complaining or even saying he is in the dog house.
Posted on 10/16/11 at 2:14 pm to dgnx6
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ware is going to get the bulk of the carries any way. So it doesnt really matter.
it does matter
especially if we need a big play in the running game
Posted on 10/16/11 at 2:14 pm to dgnx6
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Oh and ford is 2nd on the team in att and yds. So im not sure why anyone is complaining or even saying he is in the dog house.
his carries have been going down and down
Posted on 10/16/11 at 2:15 pm to Stagg8
Isn't LSU a running team?
Why are people so concerned with ford pass blocking?
Doesn't LSU run the fricking ball 40 times or more a game?
Why are people so concerned with ford pass blocking?
Doesn't LSU run the fricking ball 40 times or more a game?
Posted on 10/16/11 at 2:16 pm to Stagg8
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You said lots of our backs can get lots of yards. If what you meant by that was Ford was in no way a bigger threat to break a long run, then I would cease to even argue. For what it's worth Ford had the longest run of the 3 last year and has the longest run of the three this year.
Ok and russell shepard avg 9.8 yds per carry. Why not use him as the home run threat then? I guess he is just in the dog house too.
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