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re: Miles DOES NOT Win Games He's Not Suppose to

Posted on 11/12/09 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 5:01 pm to
Houston Nutt wins tons of games he's not supposed to. Where would you rank him?
Posted by DP40
Swamps and creeks
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 5:15 pm to
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Georgia 2009?


The one game I might consider, but UGA is not looking all that good. See Auby road win last yr. Looked great at the time, but it really wasn't in the end.

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2006 - Beat a Kentucky(8-5) team 49-0
2009 - Beat Auburn (7-3) 31-10


Statement wins? I don't think so (laughing Seinfeld style)

I don't totally agree w/ his points, but at least I can see when it comes to SEC games Miles is not exactly winning the ones he shouldn't (meaning team is not, but that's semantics). Nor does his teams dominate equal SEC foes.

Another note: didn't Joe Ed Bradley say the consensus among SEC coaches is that LSU looks great, but they don't play great? Just asking. Or was that somebody else?
Posted by Port City
Baton Rouge/Shreveport
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 5:22 pm to
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The one game I might consider, but UGA is not looking all that good. See Auby road win last yr. Looked great at the time, but it really wasn't in the end.


Well we have only been underdogs in 7 (I think) games since Miles has been here so there isn't a whole lot to choose from. Regardless, we were the underdogs to Georgia this year and came out with a victory.

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Statement wins? I don't think so (laughing Seinfeld style)


Well he listed MSU (8-5) in 2007 so I just went by his standards.

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Nor does his teams dominate equal SEC foes.


Who does?
Posted by DP40
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 5:29 pm to
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Who does?


Bama over UGA last year.

UT over UGA this year.

UF over UGA last year.

shite, there is a pattern there.

OK, ARKY over Auby this year.

Off the top of my head....
Posted by Port City
Baton Rouge/Shreveport
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 5:36 pm to
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UT over UGA this year.



Why do you give credit to UT for a win over UGA (5-4) but none to Miles for the beatdown over Auburn (7-3)?

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Bama over UGA last year.

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UF over UGA last year.


Good wins for sure but UGA had some serious problems. Hell we could have beat them if not for 2 pick 6's. How many more can you think of with Meyer and Saban (honest question)?

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OK, ARKY over Auby this year.


Again, you are actually giving Arkansas credit for a win over Auburn but not LSU?
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
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83151 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 5:37 pm to
LSU over Auburn this year
Posted by DP40
Swamps and creeks
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 5:43 pm to
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How many more can you think of with Meyer and Saban (honest question)?


Haven't thought about except the sig wins that I mentioned.

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Again, you are actually giving Arkansas credit for a win over Auburn but not LSU?


I didn't realize Arky is as good as LSU. Hmm.
Posted by hondapa26
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2005
3149 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 6:14 pm to
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Saban won many games we weren't suppose to win when he was here, do I need to name them?


YES, but $aban also lost three games in the last 6 years that he was supposed to win...in fact they were against high school teams...UAB, Iowa (Cap. One), and ULM (with BAMA). This is something that Miles has NEVER done! Just thought I would throw that into the mix...

Alright, so tell me, who do you want to coach??? $aban??? He's not coming back...Urban??? NOt a chance in hell. So, tell me who is better than Miles other than Saban or Urban???
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 6:18 pm to
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So, tell me who is better than Miles other than Saban or Urban???

I dunno who's better, but I'd like to see Cincy's coach with LSU's talent. Or TCU's coach. Or Oregon's coach.

Many teams put up huge offensive numbers and look very crisp every week. What would LSU do with one of these coaches? I'd like to see.
Posted by hondapa26
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2005
3149 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 6:28 pm to
do you think any one of those coaches would even think about coming in here if Miles was fired after a 11-2 or 10-3 season (assuming we win all or 2 out of 3 of remaining SEC games and bowl game)...two years after a National Championship??? THEY WOULD BE CRAZY TO COME HERE! Just sayin...I would rather see Crowton be canned at the end of this year...I think he is the ultimate problem!
Posted by caljammer82
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Member since Dec 2006
789 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 6:35 pm to
Again, we are not talking about games we are suppose to win. I am simply making a statement, that is great coaches win games that they are not suppose to, and miles has yet to do so in a game that matters a whole significance, that we weren't suppose to. That is just a simple fact.
Posted by hondapa26
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2005
3149 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 7:00 pm to
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Again, we are not talking about games we are suppose to win. I am simply making a statement, that is great coaches win games that they are not suppose to, and miles has yet to do so in a game that matters a whole significance, that we weren't suppose to. That is just a simple fact.


YES, but you also made the statement that $aban won many games that he wasn't supposed to when he was here...I just figured I would bring to attention the fact that he lost 3 games while he was here that he was DEFINITELY supposed to win...Miles has NEVER lost a game he was supposed to win...JUST SAYIN.
Posted by jmitc22
Brrrrr
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 7:11 pm to
I'm not going to read 10 pages, but would just like to ask...if coaches are rated by games that they win that they aren't supposed to win, then does that make these coaches the greatest of all time?:

Appy State coach who beat Michigan
UAB coach who beat LSU
ULM coach who beat Alabama?
Posted by Tiger 79
The Original Tiger 79
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 7:34 pm to
Posted by hondapa26
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2005
3149 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 7:40 pm to
WOW...END OF DISCUSSION...couldn't have put it better myself!

Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 7:49 pm to
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caljammer82


Please.
Posted by HooDooWitch
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Member since Sep 2009
11182 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 7:56 pm to
Interesting thread. IMO some coaches have a the ability to get average player to play above thier level and there for beating teams that should have an advantage over them. A coach that comes to mind is Steve Spurrier.
Posted by Tigerdandy
Member since May 2007
726 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 8:28 pm to
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That is just a simple fact.


Another simple fact is that you are a clueless tool and probably a troll.
Posted by Tigerloo
Member since Sep 2007
397 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 8:42 pm to
That's right, because his coaching has nothing to do with the fact that we are favored in most games!


(did you see what I did there?)
Posted by rtgr
New Orleans/Jackson Wyoming
Member since Nov 2005
2528 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 9:10 pm to
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I dunno who's better, but I'd like to see Cincy's coach with LSU's talent. Or TCU's coach. Or Oregon's coach.

Many teams put up huge offensive numbers and look very crisp every week. What would LSU do with one of these coaches? I'd like to see.


All coach teams that play in bullshite conference. Yes, sonnyboy the punk 10 is a joke just like the big least and mwc. The level of football isn't even close to the SEC, especially on defense.
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